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Exclusive: Early US intel assessment suggests strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say | CNN Politics (edition.cnn.com)
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[–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not arguing Israel's or the US's intent to destroy the Iranian government (and, for the record, the Iranian government is definitely shitty, even a notable portion of their population loathes it as well). That Israel--and the current US administration--has been wanting to attack Iran for any reason, even if the reason is dubious, is not in question.

What I'm arguing is that you said this was all to prevent Iran to have nuclear energy, which is untrue since Iran already has that. And it is also undeniable that Iran has not been complying with the IAEA's inspectors since 2019. Why would the IAEA report that Iran is enriching uranium beyond what is needed for energy? Why is Iran not complying with their inspectors?

Those are questions worth asking and seeking the answers to. I do not agree they should be outright attacked over such things, but to pretend like Iran is completely innocent is ridiculous. It's unfortunate that genocidal war criminals are running Israel and a corrupt group of fascists is running the US at the moment, but it is unsurprising that they are not seeking to resolve these issues peacefully.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    What I’m arguing is that you said this was all to prevent Iran to have nuclear energy, which is untrue since Iran already has that.

    They have a single nuclear plant that had been under construction since 1975 and was held up repeatedly by foreign intervention, including the 2009 sabotage effort by the Obama administration's CIA - which, incidentally, gave the rest of the world exposure to the Stuxnet virus as collateral. Then there has been the persistent effort by US and Israeli intelligence services to kidnap and assassinate Iranian nuclear scientists, also going back decades. Not even including the assassination efforts since 2021, we've seen attacks in 2007, 2009, 2010, and 2011 all linked back to western aligned governments.

    "Iran has a single nuclear power plant so what are you complaining about?" is deliberately naive and obtuse, particularly when peer nations like Germany and France have enjoyed the benefits of between six and fifty-six plants going back over 40 years. Hell, the UAE has four active plants and over 5x Iran's total energy capacity for a population 1/10th the size, without provoking the kind of intervention and assault the Iranians have endured.

    The latest bombing of uranium enrichment facilities - hell, the fact that they need to bury their refinement facilities at the bottom of a mountain to begin with - illustrate the undo costs and constant threats Iranians need to endure in order to modernize their electric grids.

    I do not agree they should be outright attacked over such things, but to pretend like Iran is completely innocent is ridiculous.

    Innocent of what? Implementing energy modernization strategies that have been in the works since prior to the revolution?

    What are you even accusing them of? Not adhering to an arms control agreement the US pulled out of as an excuse to attack them? It's insane to even talk about the Iranian nuclear program absent the malicious history of foreign intervention.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Again, you're ignoring that the IAEA's entire purpose is non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. Why deny compliance to third-party inspectors? If their endeavors were truly so innocent, then they had no reason to be uncooperative.

    Sorry, I will not feel pity towards the Iranian government. I sympathize for their people, but their government can shove off.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    the IAEA’s entire purpose is non-proliferation of nuclear weapons

    Oh? How many inspections have they made in Israel?

    Sorry, I will not feel pity towards the Iranian government.

    Of course not. Your brain is poisoned by hate.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Iran was complying with the JCPOA before Trump killed it in his first term simply because Obama did it. And even then, they continued to comply with these limits and the IAEA inspections up until, at least, early 2019.

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