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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That presumes downvotes represent honest disagreement, which we both know and I have proven they don't.

Because now one asshole with 500 different alts across the fediverse can take any post he wants and massively downvote it, enforcing consequential action against opinions he doesn't like, and no one is the wiser.

That's why we deal with the one having 250 upvotes, and give 500 upvotes to whoever disagrees with it, letting that opinion rise to the top instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, this is why one account per person is the most important part of this system functioning. Bots, brigading, alts, etc. all undermine the way the system should work. In fact, they undermine an upvotes-only system too, since one person with 5,000 bot accounts can make anything look popular.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Which is not possible because you can't guarantee one account per person, anyone can make as many alts as they want, specifically on other servers that can then inundate a post on a target one. That's why it's so problematic.

In retrospect, federation itself is a terrible idea the way it's been implemented. I don't think the developers took the fact that humans are inherently evil into account.

In fact, they undermine an upvotes-only system too, since one person with 5,000 bot accounts can make anything look popular.

This also is true. 🤔 Allowing people to vote on other people's comments in general is so deeply problematic.