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First Graders. They're snatching First Graders in Unmarked cars. (discuss.online)
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[–] -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What about the people who didn’t vote fascism and instead stayed home and complained about the black woman and Israel?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Or the people who kept us from getting anyone who could actually rally enough people to fight fascism before it got this far by standing behind the senile old guy nobody liked who proved for four years he wasn't gonna stop shit, til he literally shat his pants on stage, then gave us his appointed second, who kept all the same policies and was personally a cop.

    Just fuck them all, whole country is a write-off.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Whatever excuse you guys need to use to dodge responsibility i guess. The rest of us around the world are smart enough to hold our nose and vote in a candidate to oppose fascism, but Americans aren’t smart

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wish I could argue with you about this. But I can't. I voted for Harris, so many here refused because she wasn't good enough. It's like they want to go straight from where we are to perfect in a single election. The reason the process is slow is to avoid the very situation we're in now. Incremental progress. Unfortunately the last 60 years or so have been used to erode the whole process, so we're left with law makers and judges more interested in being rich and influential than doing their jobs.

    I'm seriously looking forward to the results from the Rockland county NY election lawsuit. I'm seriously bummed the Harris campaign did fundraising for a recount but never called for one.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, its my fault the candidate was bad.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, it's not. We can argue whether or not she was really bad, or just not good enough, but the point is, when you have a choice between not perfect (or "bad" for the sake of argument) and objectively awful, and you choose nothing, then you're equally responsible for the current state of things.

    There are people suffering and dying now because he's in charge, and let musk take his stupid chainsaw to aid programs. Israel is still doing awful things to the Palestinians, and he did absolutely nothing to help the situation between Ukraine and Russia. He's ramming into every guardrail in our government and breaking through many of them. There will absolutely and 100% be more death and suffering with him as president than if we had gotten Harris. This was obvious well before the election, however the scope and speed are surprising, pretending that abstinence is somehow the morally superior stance is mind boggling.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah it's totally my fault she couldn't stop looking for groups to alienate, groups in critical fucking areas.

    It's my fault the dnc chose such an awful candidate

    It's my fault the dnc had to switch lanes at the last second because the old senile man, half dead from ass cancer, couldn't pretend anymore.

    I admit it. This was all my fault. Harris, her team, and thr party? All blameless.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm glad to see you're able to come to terms with it.

    Jokes aside, nobody is holding you responsible for her or her team's actions. But you absolutely can be held accountable for enabling trump to win, and therefore what he's doing now. You as an individual do not hold much blame, it's spread out over millions who voted trump, or chose not to vote.

    If Harris won, and started doing all this same crap, I'd own my part of making that happen.

    We live in a shitty two party system, and the Overton window has shifted so far that the left isn't even very left any more. But we're all on the same damn bus, and when given a chance to vote in the driver, a bunch of people just sat there while the vote went to the unapologetic felon who was only there so he didn't get sent to prison. So off the cliff we go, damaging the lives of countless people.

    The required participation was so small and easy, I can't fathom the mental gymnastics it must have taken to skip out when one choice was so obviously and objectively better than the other.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    Whatever excuse you guys need to use to dodge responsibility i guess

    Literally voting for genocide and telling other people to vote for genocide while saying this shit

    Literally voting for fascism and telling other people to vote for fascism and telling them it's to fight fascism.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    You think the Dems who are not doing shit now would have somehow prevented this? They're complacent. Politician's aren't owed your vote just because the other guy is worse, thats not democracy. Politicians need to earn your vote, and not one pesidential candidate has in a decades.

    This is where we've been heading for over 4 decades, with no opposition. There was no magic choice that would have prevented this, or possibly even just slow it. Dems at best would just slow the pace a little, but never stop it. Best they can say is that we need "unity" despite the fact that you can't do a "middle ground" with people who want you wiped out. Kamala would have capitulated to the trump party's demands as she was already doing with her rhetoric while the genocide continued because "she's speaking". The Democratic party and Kamala failed the people, not the other way around. Sooner you realize that, the sooner you can see who your real enemies are.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Could the Dems have prevented a second trump presidency if you had voted for Harris? Yes I believe that.

    Fact is you guys bitched about Biden and so you got an educated black lady instead and you guys were still like “no not that!” The American left splintered and imploded and nobody was left enough for anyone else. If you were even slightly right or even left of someone you got called a fascist. You guys rejected allies at every turn. Meanwhile the right united, played you guys and ate your lunch.

    The rest of us around the world are rightfully pissed off at you cretins who even now still pretend like there’s no difference between Trump and Harris

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Theres so much distintion you completley boiled out of that, to the point where I don't think you're actually analzing anything and are just lashing out.

    I wouldn't call a cop, supporter of genocide, unpopular, failed candidate no one wanted, whose biggest accomplishments are being for transfering trans people to the wrong prisons, and heading the office that argued against letting out of prisoners as it would deplete a "necessary labor pool" just an "educated black lady", and in fact boiling down an individual to just a symbolic representation of their skin color is pretty damn rascist.

    If you really think Dems could have prevented this you haven't been paying attention. Their job was to be complicent to maintain the status quo as much as possible, and crush any true progressive movements, as they do time and time again. Even fucking FDR's new deal that gets lauded as a huge victory was used to undercut the true demands of the labor movement of the time.

    Just because some people painfully aware of the horrific positions we are in as a working class, and realize that the only way we stand any chance is to throw off the illusions and start playing hardball, doesn't mean they are the enemies for challenging your own complaiency.

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