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ChatGPT 'got absolutely wrecked' by Atari 2600 in beginner's chess match — OpenAI's newest model bamboozled by 1970s logic (www.tomshardware.com)
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[+] -20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think ai is being marketed as awesome at everything. It's got obvious flaws. Right now its not good for stuff like chess, probably not even tic tac toe. It's a language model, its hard for it to calculate the playing field. But ai is in development, it might not need much to start playing chess.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What the tech is being marketed as and what it’s capable of are not the same, and likely never will be. In fact all things are very rarely marketed how they truly behave, intentionally.

    Everyone is still trying to figure out what these Large Reasoning Models and Large Language Models are even capable of; Apple, one of the largest companies in the world just released a white paper this past week describing the “illusion of reasoning”. If it takes a scientific paper to understand what these models are and are not capable of, I assure you they’ll be selling snake oil for years after we fully understand every nuance of their capabilities.

    TL;DR Rich folks want them to be everything, so they’ll be sold as capable of everything until we repeatedly refute they are able to do so.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago

    I think in many cases people intentionally or unintentionally disregard the time component here. Ai is in development. I think what is being marketed here, just like in the stock market, is a piece of the future. I don't expect the models I use to be perfect and not make mistakes, so I use them accordingly. They are useful for what I use them for and I wouldn't use them for chess. I don't expect that laundry detergent to be just as perfect in the commercial either.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Marketing does not mean functionality. AI is absolutely being sold to the public and enterprises as something that can solve everything. Obviously it can't, but it's being sold that way. I would bet the average person would be surprised by this headline solely on what they've heard about the capabilities of AI.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't think anyone is so stupid to believe current ai can solve everything.

    And honestly, I didn't see any marketing material that would claim that.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You are both completely over estimating the intelligence level of "anyone" and not living in the same AI marketed universe as the rest of us. People are stupid. Really stupid.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't understand why this is so important, marketing is all about exaggerating, why expect something different here.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not important. You said AI isn't being marketed to be able to do everything. I said yes it is. That's it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    My point is people aren't expecting AGI. People have already tried them and understand what the general capabilities are. Businesses today even more. I don't think exaggerating the capabilities is such an overarching issue, that anyone could call the whole thing a scam.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Zoom CEO, that is the video calling software, wanted to train AIs on your work emails and chat messages to create AI personalities you could send to the meetings you're paid to sit through while you drink Corona on the beach and receive a "summary" later.

    The Zoom CEO, that is the video calling software, seems like a pretty stupid guy?

    Yeah. Yeah, he really does. Really.. fuckin'.. dumb.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Really then why are they cramming AI into every app and every device and replacing jobs with it and claiming they’re saving so much time and money and they’re the best now the hardest working most efficient company and this is the future and they have a director of AI vision that’s right a director of AI vision a true visionary to lead us into the promised land where we will make money automatically please bro just let this be the automatic money cheat oh god I’m about to

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Those are two different things.

    1. they are craming ai everywhere because nobody wants to miss the boat and because it plays well in the stock market.

    2. the people claiming it's awesome and that they are doing I don't know what with it, replacing people are mostly influencers and a few deluded people.

    Ai can help people in many different roles today, so it makes sense to use it. Even in roles that is not particularly useful, it makes sense to prepare for when it is.

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