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[+] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)
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    Where i’m baffled though is the basic math. Younger people are having less and less sex and relationships, people are broadly staying single and not dating or having any intimacy well into adulthood and often have NO plans to date or have a family even, so how is this eruption of sweaty used-car-salesmen making traction? There are no success stories, it’s entirely manufactured. It’s no different than the flat-earth movement but for pudgy white teenage boys.

    The “success story” is Andrew Tate, and probably even people like Musk or Trump. They see how extremely misogynistic people manage to get with multiple women nonetheless and get fooled into thinking being “stoic” and generally a jerk is the key to getting laid. They don’t realize that those people are just rich and are getting laid despite their personality, not thanks to it.

    Then there’s also the ones who are fully aware of this and are sold on the “grind mentality”, so that they can get rich like them (again, missing the point on how all of them either did it through crimes, were born rich, or both).

    Of course if you look at it with some logic it all falls apart, but you can’t expect young people to have enough knowledge to do this. They need some positive role model to tell them right from wrong, but it’s becoming increasingly hard when the negative ones keep springing up like mushrooms.

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yup, all of this is true and it’s sad how people with influence fail to understand this.

    You talked about 17-22 yo, which definitely feel negatively about people lecturing them on what they feel is an irresistible primal instinct, but another big issue is that, in the digital era, even younger kids are exposed to that. Older teenagers may feel like something they did is seen as terribly wrong and be angry at that, but there’s younger ones that probably can only think “…what did I even do? Why is everyone angry at me just because I’m a boy?”.

    And guess who comes in to give them “answers” when they’re in that confused and vulnerable state? Yup, Tate & friends. Really, they’ve figured everything about how to make as many people as possible fall in their rabbithole to profit from them, and we’re doing nothing to stop them. Even Tate was arrested only because he did some heinous shit to people “working” with him AND boasted about that, otherwise he’d still be around. We need some serious regulations on social media algorithms, but I doubt we’re ever gonna see those in our lifetimes considering who’s in power.

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    But that's the thing. Tate isn't a success story.

    How is someone who beats wives and rapes children alike a success story? Applies to both.

    How is someone a success story, when they get into crippling debt and can't even get their dick up, yet claim to be the perfect image of a virile guy?

    For me, as one of those "success stories", true success lies in empathy and respect. Hard work must be used to give back to society, and whoever gives not back, must be respectfully shunned and made to give back, until they reach out and ask for help; and then answer is given in the form of unionising, protesting against oligarchies trying to break down mental health facilities, protesting against hatred that must fail to divide us.

    Types that may seem beyond saving, I think can be saved; if they radicalised once, they can deradicalise once again. But it does require effort.

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