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It's Breathtaking How Fast AI Is Screwing Up the Education System (gizmodo.com)
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[–] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I was uninterested in school because nothing was ever done to make me interested, even at home.

Later in life I was diagnosed with ADHD and now I’m a software developer. Sadly school isn’t for everybody and I just thought I was stupid and lazy, it turns out I was fine I just needed the right help.

Edit: Votes don’t matter but I’d love to know the reasoning for the 5 downvotes on this. Like why don’t you put across your opposition.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    100%, but sadly many people, myself included didn’t get that and actively grew up in terrible environments.

    I guess that’s what happens when you mum is 18 when you’re born. You’re being raised by a kid that didn’t make the best choices and the cycle continues. Although I don’t and won’t have children.

    This is why school should be empowered to do more as that place is literally the only place you’re learning how to be a person and get ready for life.

    I saw my dad beat my mum up. Been in the house when he tried to drive the car into the house but got stuck in the privits.

    I’ve seen my mum attack my dad with a frying pan and witness my tea be dunked on her head. Or my dad go to prison for drunk driving.

    Spent my entire pre high school childhood sat in the back of a car as my mum would berate the different men in her life, to her best friend.

    Spent the following years seeing my mum psychologically bully my dad and he would be sat down stairs crying at night.

    Is it little wonder that when people grow up like this and with ADHD that they might be hard to reach in school and that they are withdrawn.

    I want to say that life’s hard and I don’t blame my family for the shit I grew up because they were young and not ready for life themselves as they had shit lives too. We were fed, went on holidays, and were richer than most of my council estate (I grew up there too) friends, but we didn’t get stability, love, or encouragement which is sad.

    Like this is the tip of the iceberg of what shit I’ve seen growing up or some of the fucked up shit they dragged me into, being the eldest. I have two younger brothers and we are all fucked up in different ways but I’m by far the worst (as society would say) in every metric like wages, progress in life etc.

    Edit: Looking introspectively I am thinking I’ve got unresolved issues for all this shit to just come out my finger tips on Lemmy 😂

    Edit: Reflecting on this a little more, it’s annoying when people like dude I replied to say it’s the parents job. Like no shit dude, but what do you do when the parent fails the child, just leave it at that and say to the kid sorry mate, but it’s your mums fault but good luck in life. It’s the same kind of thing where people say the parents should feed the child so the school doesn’t have to, this just leaves hungry fucking kids.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You, uh, might want to talk to someone a little more qualified than anonymous people on Lemmy.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah I’m not really here for therapy, just needed to get that out I guess.

    Clearly I do need to talk to someone, but that’s a scary thing and not cheap.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Well it's not like you had a choice in the matter and that's why they don't care how interested you are. You and the rest of your batch just need to sit still for an hour and a half until you get a break walking to the next boredom session.

    I find it quite incredible that I spent 14 years of 40 hours weeks listening to people talk about stuff I did not care about under the assumption that if I didn't I'd end up homeless so they never tried to make me care.

    Fortunately we had a computer at home to learn about the stuff I actually cared about.

    I find it crushing that they're still making students sit and listen about this boring useless shit when they can just ask their phones about whatever they'd be trying to do if they weren't listening to a course plan from the 1800s about completely obsolete and irrelevant things.

    How can this incredibly important phase of life be so hopelessly poisoned by school for absolutely no reasons at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Sure but that was not anywhere near the bulk of my time spent in school. Most of my actual learning occurred after school on the internet. School mostly made me accept that my most useful hours of my life would be consumed, and largely wasted, by external forces which I would have little to no control over and even less chances to escape from.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I like to keep a positive mindset on things and although I believe I was failed by the education system, ADHD wasn’t as known back then so to them I was just an easily distracted comedian with no desire to learn, except in maths I would ask for homework as I was alright and it was relaxing and I suppose subconsciously I didn’t feel like a failure here. Again they didn’t really help me nurture that desire.

    What I like to keep positive about is that the teacher is powerless to do anything and they just need to teach the most about of people as possible without letting the disruptive kids take time away from the ones who are better at school.

    My issue is with the education system for the masses and cynic in me doesn’t believe that systems wants everybody to reach their potential, it’s just to get you used to routine and to allow your parents to be slaves to capitalism. If it was about potential then teachers would be paid more and we would have class sizes similar to private schools (those where you pay obscene amounts) where the teacher can individualise the education.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    The "boring useless shit" your talking about is that stuff that teaches people not to repeat dumb ass decisions. The stuff like social studies tells us WHY things are the way they are. The fact that there are people in the US that are cheering for taxation without representation is EXACTLY why we need those boring classes and why you should have to sit through them until you fucking get it. Unfortunately we've let too many through under the guise of no one left behind that we've crwate a couple of generations of complete and utter morons. Morons that stack with lead poisoned and aging geriatrics with dementia. And now we have Trump. Trump is what you get when you ignore everything else in favor of only those things you find interesting or easy.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I understand very well what you mean and what the goal is, the problem is that it just doesn't reflect the reality of what was happening in school. For fuck's sake, not a single class in the entire duration explained how to do taxes or fix your car. It was all the most tepid and diluted of learning, thank fuck I had the internet to learn about the world because there was very little of that going on at school.

    I really don't know how it was even possible that so much filler, never ending school slop as appetizing as what they served at the cafeteria.

    But really that's not the worse of it, no, even thought it was VERY bad, the worse was the total suppression of agency, the lack of relevance, taking absolutely for granted that we could not escape and so there was never any need to even tell us what we're going to learn or why or have any choices.

    Every single day started with waking up too early, bussing around for an hour and then enduring this torture that would not even end one fucking minute at a time. I have a hard time even imagining how it used to be back then. If I had known how bad it was going to be I would have probably killed myself to save myself from this hellish horror. At least real physical torture wouldn't have been so hopelessly boring.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Chris Crawford was talking about this problem in 1992 and we still haven't learned anything

    The Dragon Speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBrj4S24074

    I couldn't find a transcription, and it covers a lot more than education, but it's a good speech. The relevant part starts at ~12:45

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Thanks I'll check that out

    For me it is

    "Do schools kill creativity? | Sir Ken Robinson | TED"

    which is the first result if you search youtube for "ted talk education"

    He doesn't really have a solution of mass manufactured education but he does highlight the problem real good

    Actually, someone made a drawing version of this talk and it's really good

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U

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