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[–] stickly@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who said they were planning on it? The real economic implications of that scale of payout are basically unknowable.

Contrary to pithy internet comments, cash windfalls have been shown to unlock the economic potential of that money very efficiently. Replacing food aid with one-time direct cash aid leads to higher quality of life for the poor. They actually do invest it in housing repair, transportation for jobs, necessary clothing, etc...

Yeah some people are just gonna do $400k worth of cocaine, but the myopic view of a stereotype lottery winner is pretty unfounded.

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[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which is it, is the outcome basically unknowable or almost certainly positive? Can't be both, can it.

And what makes you think that the results of Bangladeshi or Malawian subsistence farmers facing the potential sale of their cows due to short-term economic shocks would directly translate to, say, homeless people in the US?

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[–] stickly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

It doesn't take a genius to understand that if given a windfall of nearly half a million dollars, most people would instantly fritter it away on useless nonsense like drugs, alcohol, and luxury goods

You made an over generalized statement that "most people" waste a windfall, which clearly isn't true with our current evidence. Yeah nothing as outlandish as this hypothetical has ever happened, but I feel more comfortable projecting that ~173 million people getting a wealth bump will look more like those large scale programs than a few dozen lottery winners.

BTW there's no evidence to even support your lottery bankruptcy stat. Multiple studies confirm that winning the lottery improves long term quality of life and most people spend their winnings over time with no evidence of extravagant waste.

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[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago

there's no evidence to even support your lottery bankruptcy stat

Literally the first article you cited makes note of the fact that all of the previously published literature found no evidence that people became significantly happier after winning the lottery (links are provided there so I won't repeat them here). Unfortunately I cannot read the rest of the article since it's paywalled.

In the second study, the vast majority of the sample consists of people winning smaller sums (over 80% won less than $200k, which is certainly enough to fix the most pressing issues in your life, like a leaking roof or being behind on rent, but likely not enough to build a foundation for long-term wealth). Also, consider that this happened in an environment where the average person did NOT win the lottery, which is important because a massive shift in wealth distribution could have a significant effect on demand curves and would likely cause a huge change in market prices for nearly every good on the market.

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