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I like how they've so far completely failed to defend or even address what they said about "fists" because they know it's a heap of bullshit. They apparently want us to think that the everyman on the street is Kiryu Kazuma who can roll up to a crowded festival and kill ~~nine~~ eleven people with their bare fists then injure ~~like ten~~ twenty more before being restrained and brought into custody.
So you’ve made my argument for me by showing that the tool used in an assault is not relevant, and by focusing on the tool you solve nothing.
... What? I'm taking the piss out of your argument that the tool isn't relevant. You tried to bring "fists" into this as a comparison. Unless you're willing to say that I could go out right now into a crowd of people and kill eleven and wound twenty with my bare hands like I'm the Internet badass from the Navy SEALs copypasta, then you're absolutely full of it and are just running with the recently popularized bad-faith argumentation strategy of "never play defense".
Do you or do you not believe that it is possible for me to go out into a crowd of people of some description unarmed, then kill eleven people and wound twenty with – your words, not mine – "my fists". Are you actually that deluded, or were you mistaken in comparing a car attack to a fist attack?
My opinion of fists is totally irrelevant as it is used to represent a tool of any kind. Thank you for so clearly pointing out that the tool doesn’t matter at all.
I will note, that if the design of the tool is to be used solely as a weapon (such as a gun) then it does matter, but only emphasizes the issue of mental health.
To answer your direct question, even though we have established the tool is irrelevant… I do not have any way to predict your performance in an unarmed fight. If I had to make an uneducated guess: I imagine you lack the physical ability to do much more than type as you are.
The tool is very relevant when it enables greater amounts of violence.
Killing nine people with your fists is extremely hard and you'd probably die trying. A car, gun, or bomb makes it much easier.
We should remove devices whose sole purpose is to be used as a weapon. But otherwise anything could be used as a weapon, regardless of its original purpose.
However, I do feel that combustion vehicles should be eliminated entirely as they are no longer needed and are clearly damaging the planet.
But not anything could be used as a mass murder weapon. Killing nine people with a kitchen knife would also be quite hard (technically possible if the attacker gets lucky, but still more likely to result in the attacker dying)
The fact that cars are all potential mass murder weapons isn't my primary reason for wanting to ban cars, but it's totally a reason.
Well, more than 9 people die in knife attacks all the time.
You just don’t like cars and you want to use this as a way to eliminate them. It has nothing to do with people dying.
If you cared about people you would find the root cause. But you don’t, because you’re angry and you want to punish everyone around you for not giving you more support.
Over a million people around the world die because of cars every year. The most recent number I found for Canada was 1,998 people.
Let's compare that to knives. The most recent number I found for Canada was 138 people stabbed to death. Globally, 97k. Orders of magnitude in difference.
Most vehicle deaths are accidents, but you can't ignore the fact that cars kill far more people than knives.
I don't like cars, and one of the reasons is because they're extremely deadly and driving is basically the most dangerous thing we do on a regular basis.
I agree cars are dangerous.
However, this isn’t about car accidents. This is about a person who is mentally ill and would have found a way to hurt people regardless.
There is a right time and place to argue the existence of cars, but this is neither.
This is exactly like when gun lovers try to say "this isn't the time to discuss gun laws" and "they would have found a way to hurt people regardless". Zero difference.
But actually this is exactly when we should argue about the existence of cars: someone just performed a live demonstration of how dangerous they are in the hands of someone who wants to kill people. Without a car, mass killing would be much much harder and it would also be possible for people to defend themselves or escape the danger. Cars also enable impulse killings in a way knives don't, because carrying a knife has to be premeditated whereas with a car the murder weapon is always readily available.