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I know this has been debated a lot during his first term but I'm interested in your thoughts now.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wrote a long thing about this in a different thread awhile back so I'll link it here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5927199

I'm going to add to it here too:

I think the issue we have is that there is fascism as a material outcome and Fascism as an ideological movement that arose in Italy and Germany which people still identify with. A goose-stepping swastika wearing guy and Trump are not the same person.

Trump could still choose to do everything that fascists did or would do because it benefits him and never think of himself as a fascist or someone who identifies with Hitler or Mussolini.

He certainly has fascists who advise him, but they likely aren't saying "Donald, we have to do this because it is how we achieve a fascist world, which is our grand plan." They probably just tell him he will make a lot of money as will all his friends. It's a good idea economically.

I think this is because he is American, and America was the original fascists before that word or idea we identify with Italy and Germany existed, and that everyone who accepts or promotes Americanism is a fascist materially because they are accepting and promoting the same material outcomes, but calling it being pro-American without even imagining it is intentionally fascist.

There are enough real fascists around to use this to their advantage and accelerate fascism, and enough people who think they are the farthest thing from fascist but accept fascism because it isn't marketed as fascism, but as making themselves richer and their lives easier. If you are American, you accept everything fascism does, as long as it isn't called that. This has been the case since the 13 colonies, since before America existed as a nation, and so now it goes totally unnoticed