this post was submitted on 26 Apr 2025
37 points (97.4% liked)
askchapo
22969 readers
437 users here now
Ask Hexbear is the place to ask and answer ~~thought-provoking~~ questions.
Rules:
-
Posts must ask a question.
-
If the question asked is serious, answer seriously.
-
Questions where you want to learn more about socialism are allowed, but questions in bad faith are not.
-
Try [email protected] if you're having questions about regarding moderation, site policy, the site itself, development, volunteering or the mod team.
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I'd say that historically fascism is a somewhat nebulous term that tries to cover a few disparate movements, but generally speaking has been a capitalist response to a rising domestic communist movement, and so in Marxism has a very specific/scientific meaning in that regard. So without that movement in the United States currently existing Trump doesn't qualify in my opinion.
But what if through indoctrination you turn generations of Americans into sleeper agents who will begin frothing at the mouth with fear and anger at the thought of a ‘communist’.
Then start calling lunch ladies communists.
The US is having a stand alone complex type movement where the fascism is a response to a communist movement that doesn't exist
the real communism was the enemies we imagined along the way
I think you could argue that fascism is more generally the capitalist response to existential threats, which historically was domestic socialist and communist movements, but this definition leaves space to potentially include the present day US. Also, there is an interesting thread to pull relating to how the Trump admin is responding to crises borne out of the contradictions of neoliberalism, which in itself is a form of anticommunist repression created (in part) in response to the domestic socialist movements of the early 20th century.
Until you realize that the media focus on Sanders from 2014-2020 was for the purpose of stoking fascism while maintaining an absolute stranglehold on socialist organization.
The state tends to do things.