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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bibby has a weird definition for civilized I bet.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you'll find it's very, very typical historically.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it's a little known fact, but civilisation was unambiguously shit until at least 1880. It's far better to be a starving hunter-gatherer than a starving peasant by just about every measure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not if you measure it by how many shiny objects a small group has access to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yes, being one of the elites that doesn't die in a nasty way was often a better deal.