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[–] 244 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Everything else aside... What the fuck is so urgent about cutting down forests that you need a emergency order to green-light it?

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  • [–] 238 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Nothing. The "emergency order" is entirely so he doesn't have to go through Congress to do it.

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  • [–] 89 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    “I can do anything I want if it’s an emergency!”

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Dang i wonder if we can find example of emergency powers eroding democracy in the past now...

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Quickly becoming his go to play. It's how he pushed through tariffs and how he was able to auto deport all those people. There's probably more that I'm unaware of but the amount of national emergencies the man has declared so far is kinda crazy

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    i thought liberal democracies had mechanisms to stop this from happening!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    They do, it's called "voting". Unfortunately, this "liberal democracy" (which it hasn't been a true-democracy in over a century) has a large portion of voters that refuse to execute their civil duty as a citizen of a city-state.

    Essentially, people want all the benefits of living in a society without putting forth the work required to maintain it. Cracks eventually start to show, corruption leaks in, and that's how fascism begins to grow in the cellar of Democracy's home. That's how we've gotten where we are.

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  • Building "freedom cities" for billionaires, maybe. In his '23 announcement, it specifically stated:

    Freedom Cities will be built on federal land that is undeveloped and not part of any of our country’s magnificent national parks or other natural treasures.

    Which I assume means they'll be built on your parks?

    (for anyone scrolling past like, "wtf are freedom cities" - it's feudalism. The Company Town. Literally lords and serfs type shit. Plenty of good places to read more about it, but here's one to start.)

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    Perhaps to mitigate the repercussions from tariffs on lumber from Canada. We saw a bailout for farmers impacted by his previous tariffs, the administration may actually believe the national forests can save Trump from the consequences of his actions.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What the fuck is so urgent about cutting down forests that you need a emergency order to green-light it?

    Replacing timber we previously got from Canada before the screaming from the industries that use lumber that is now tariffed gets too loud.

    I don't know enough about those industries to know if it'll work, though.

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