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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I work serving the homeless. We spent $10 billion for one year during COVID just to include all of the students who didn't already get free school meals to have it during that time. Unless you're only providing cots and Porto-johns, that number might work as an annual figure, until inflation hits, or the numbers go up because once you offer free housing, more people will try to become eligible.

Sounds to me like you're the one talking out your ass.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Then present your data. Hell, publish your data. If you know better than the experts at HUD, and can prove it, it should be quite the boon to your career.

But you’re not wrong that band-aids for systemic problems are much more expensive than solving them.

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[–] turnip@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most free housing doesnt allow drugs, which is the main problem homeless people have with living in them.

Then you have the general maintenance issues, fire risk, nimbyism. Is it really that simple?

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

You’re perpetuating capitalist propaganda. Most homeless people do not have a drug problem. At least half of homeless people in the US are employed.

It’s not a drug problem. It’s an unaffordable housing problem.

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[–] turnip@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah, that could very well be true, we really printed a lot of money during Covid. In Canada the government is already buying 50% of all mortgage bonds, inflating the debt people can take in order to juice home prices.

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[–] Brosplosion@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

These numbers are extremely unsubstantiated. If you think giving someone $40k will permanently save them from homelessness I have a bridge to sell you.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let’s see your study. What do you know that HUD experts don’t?

People also said you can’t solve homelessness by giving them homes, and Finland did it with ease.

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[–] Brosplosion@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

For example, California spent over $24 billion over a period of five years and didn't even make a dent.

Homelessness is not a simple problem you can just throw money at. People will consistently fall through the societal cracks.

https://calmatters.org/housing/homelessness/2024/04/california-homelessness-spending

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago*

Yes, California’s half-assed efforts have been rife with fraud and waste.

Similarly, it costs many billions more to fund our half-assed healthcare system than it would be to simply give people healthcare. Dealing with problems in a way that only attacks the symptoms is far more expensive and wasteful.

But it has been proven that guaranteeing housing is both cheaper and produces superior results.

https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/look-finlands-housing-first-initiative

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[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago

If you can provide six months of housing, food and support then a person could start earning for themselves. You don't have to provide a lifetime of help for $40,000