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Notorious right wing troll gets one of his many accounts banned for evasion (thelemmy.club)

submitted 1 year ago by LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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Curious if anyone has the original Universal Monk comment handy.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 12 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Tbh, it appears to me the guy is in serious mental health crisis. Social isolation isn't great without mh support and tends to exacerbate issues. I'm wondering if it's simply not affordably accessible to them or if it is and they broke so completely they failed to see the necessity. I remember a post they made about breaking up with their gf and that's when the alt-right accounts became highly visible to me.

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[–] LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world [S] 23 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

He also posted about being happily married; there's really no way to know the truth about a serial liar like UM.

Although he has serious "50-something-divorced-guy" energy. If I had to guess, his kids and ex hate him for being a right-wing scumbag and this is how he takes out his anger.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The only thing we need to guess, impo, is he's in serious mh crisis and pushing him toward suicide or mass shooting isn't a solution. Ignore or block should leave him the option of seeking professional help or spiralling of his own doing, not ours.

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[–] LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world [S] 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

It also leaves open the option to keep being a racist, transphobic, fascist troll though, which will leave the door open to becoming a Nazi bar.

I understand where you're coming from, but it's not my responsibility to play nice with the people who are attacking the people I love and those like them.

Trolls should be made to feel unwelcome until they change their behavior.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

We disagree. Unless we're moderators, it's not our job and focusing on other's demons too much means we're ignoring our own. Something about the abyss staring back, but that's the beauty of the fediverse. Just like you don't get to tell me what to do, I don't get to tell you. I would only urge you to do some soul -searching and follow your best impulses, while waiting to serve the worst or questionable. There are other options such as utilizing block/report.

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[–] LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world [S] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Sure, if that's what works for you.

But I don't want to see Lemmy turn into a trash site like Reddit, where the worst and loudest are free to harass, provoke, and lie without consequences.

This user has literally dozens of alts he uses to get around bans, so I don't see unilateral disarmament as a way to keep this particular fascist in check.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's fair. Practicable solutions seem to be somewhere between severity and mercy, in my estimation.

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[–] LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks for voicing an alternate opinion, I really do value other perspectives.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're welcome and thank you, too. What about ip block ban?

My concern is for avoidable loss of human life. Not that it is avoidable, just that I would appreciate mitigation of foreseeable consequences.

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[–] LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

What about ip block ban?

I don't think that's a thing on Lemmy yet, and I imagine would have to be done per instance so they could just jump around to different spots.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 year ago

It's doable though.

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[+] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works -7 points 1 year ago

Kind words. But misplaced. I'm not in crisis. Still good words though and people should listen to you. Just not about me.

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[+] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works -7 points 1 year ago

attacking the people I love and those like them.

I've never attacked anyone. Please post any proof that I advocate violence in any form. I'm a socialist.

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

I can hypothetically be his girlfriend if that saves a few people from the brink of insanity.

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[+] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works -7 points 1 year ago*

Social isolation

I'm not socially isolated though. And the gf I broke up with wasn't an emotional post. I was talking about how she was too clingy and was mad that I dated other girls. There was nothing sad about it at all. Please post the actual comment.

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