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Biden asks Congress for $40 billion to support Ukraine, replenish US disaster aid and bolster border (apnews.com)
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[+] -16 points 3 years ago (8 children)

If the alternative was that they would rape, kill, and kidnap my people for the next 20 years without end?

I'm not willing to fight this war to the last Ukrainian.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Say they do negotiate peace, what do they do next time Russia wants to invade?

    Give more up?

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  • [+] -10 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It is possible to include certain guarantees within a treaty to make it painful for either side to break it, or to make breaking it extremely difficult. That's what Ukraine would have to demand from Russia - some kind of leverage or collateral to guarantee the peace holds.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    You are Ukrainian then? Because I think they are the only ones who get to make that call.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The conflict is not occurring in a vacuum. They can pretend that they are the only ones who can make that decision, but without the West sending ridiculous amounts of money in arms and support, they wouldn't be in a position to make any decision. As long as they're entirely dependent on others, they can't monopolize the decision making here.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    See you have an issue in that argument. Without support (as that is what I assume would be the threat here) Ukraine has very clearly stated that it would fight on. You seem to forget that the west just lost a war in Afghanistan, who had no real foreign support.

    All that cutting support off would do would drag this conflict out and make it mostly partisan action.

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