▲ 886 ▼ Elon Musk Begs Tesla Staff Not to Sell Their Stocks (futurism.com) submitted 1 year ago by just_another_person@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 159 comments fedilink hide all child comments Keep it going. Canada, you're doing great.
[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 child) I almost wish that I had stock to sell permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NABDad@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) Better option: short it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I think the important thing to note here is that there are multiple ways to bet against a stock: If you have the stock, sell it. If you don't have the stock: A. Buy a "Put" contract at a lower strike price than the current price in the future. At any time between the contract purchase and the expiration date you can exercise it and take your winnings. B. Short Sell on Margin. Don't do this. Essentially you borrow the stock, sell it right away, then buy it back to return at the lower price. Maximum loss: The difference between the price you purchased at, and the price you sold at. 2A: The fee per contract. One "Put Option Contract" is 100 shares * the fee. Say the fee for your strike price is $9. Then you pay $900 for one contract. That is your max loss. 2B: Your margin cap. If you borrowed and sold a share for $245, but it turned around and went up, your loss can be arbitrarily large. Don't margin. It's stupid. Edit: Short selling big dumb, but shorting is not what this big dumb was explaining, this big dumb wanting to explain betting against stock. Fixed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Um... Selling a stock if you have it, is a long, not short position. Short position is always about borrowing it first and profiting from the margin. And if you have a long position and sell it on a downward trend chances are you're losing money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago You're right. I think I just smashed the thoughts into one sentence at the beginning permalink fedilink source parent [–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Never do a sinple short. The maximum possible gain is whatever the current price is at, but there is no cap on the potential loss. Especially don't do this when Trump may order the federal government to buy a bunch of Teslas and make the stock surge again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) Better option: short it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I think the important thing to note here is that there are multiple ways to bet against a stock: If you have the stock, sell it. If you don't have the stock: A. Buy a "Put" contract at a lower strike price than the current price in the future. At any time between the contract purchase and the expiration date you can exercise it and take your winnings. B. Short Sell on Margin. Don't do this. Essentially you borrow the stock, sell it right away, then buy it back to return at the lower price. Maximum loss: The difference between the price you purchased at, and the price you sold at. 2A: The fee per contract. One "Put Option Contract" is 100 shares * the fee. Say the fee for your strike price is $9. Then you pay $900 for one contract. That is your max loss. 2B: Your margin cap. If you borrowed and sold a share for $245, but it turned around and went up, your loss can be arbitrarily large. Don't margin. It's stupid. Edit: Short selling big dumb, but shorting is not what this big dumb was explaining, this big dumb wanting to explain betting against stock. Fixed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Um... Selling a stock if you have it, is a long, not short position. Short position is always about borrowing it first and profiting from the margin. And if you have a long position and sell it on a downward trend chances are you're losing money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago You're right. I think I just smashed the thoughts into one sentence at the beginning permalink fedilink source parent [–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Never do a sinple short. The maximum possible gain is whatever the current price is at, but there is no cap on the potential loss. Especially don't do this when Trump may order the federal government to buy a bunch of Teslas and make the stock surge again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I think the important thing to note here is that there are multiple ways to bet against a stock: If you have the stock, sell it. If you don't have the stock: A. Buy a "Put" contract at a lower strike price than the current price in the future. At any time between the contract purchase and the expiration date you can exercise it and take your winnings. B. Short Sell on Margin. Don't do this. Essentially you borrow the stock, sell it right away, then buy it back to return at the lower price. Maximum loss: The difference between the price you purchased at, and the price you sold at. 2A: The fee per contract. One "Put Option Contract" is 100 shares * the fee. Say the fee for your strike price is $9. Then you pay $900 for one contract. That is your max loss. 2B: Your margin cap. If you borrowed and sold a share for $245, but it turned around and went up, your loss can be arbitrarily large. Don't margin. It's stupid. Edit: Short selling big dumb, but shorting is not what this big dumb was explaining, this big dumb wanting to explain betting against stock. Fixed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Um... Selling a stock if you have it, is a long, not short position. Short position is always about borrowing it first and profiting from the margin. And if you have a long position and sell it on a downward trend chances are you're losing money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago You're right. I think I just smashed the thoughts into one sentence at the beginning permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Um... Selling a stock if you have it, is a long, not short position. Short position is always about borrowing it first and profiting from the margin. And if you have a long position and sell it on a downward trend chances are you're losing money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago You're right. I think I just smashed the thoughts into one sentence at the beginning permalink fedilink source parent
[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago You're right. I think I just smashed the thoughts into one sentence at the beginning permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Never do a sinple short. The maximum possible gain is whatever the current price is at, but there is no cap on the potential loss. Especially don't do this when Trump may order the federal government to buy a bunch of Teslas and make the stock surge again. permalink fedilink source parent