Not The Onion

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I fucking hate tesla and elon musk. Also I fucking hate people calling unverifiable shit science

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Well, it was published, up to you to do a peer review I guess!

Also, this isn't needing science, it blatantly shows that things does infact not function as intended.

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[–] johnynolegs@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Just fyi, they used AEB in one car and cruise control in another. Far from even. I think it was a fail from the start considering they couldn’t get AEB to even fire on the Tesla driving without cruise control. Insane

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[+] riodoro1@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Were is a robust description of the experiment? Or am I supposed to look frame by frame at the screen in the car to deduce the testing conditions?

All he had to do was tell us clearly what is enabled on each car and what his inputs are. That would solve all the tesla fanbois comments about him cheating. Maybe he didn’t for „engagement”.

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[+] Electricblush@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

He made an elaborate test track specifically to make interesting observations.

He set up dozens of cameras to record interesting observations from multiple angles.

He collected footage of interesting phenomena he observed as they were happening in his elaborate test environment.

He then cut the footage up so much it’s impossible for us to say exactly what really happened.

If he went to all this trouble, and then made claims based on his experiment would it really hurt the video to explain the testing process a little bit more?

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[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

You're upset that made up people in your head called this video a research project or something? Because the closest thing I could find to what you're complaining about is his YouTube channel's description where it says "friend of science".

He never claimed to be a scientist, doesn't claim to be doing scientific research. In his own words, he's just doing some tests on his own car. That's it.

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[+] Crampon@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So Tesla owners have a monopoly on caring about the process of an experiment?

A logic conclusion by that is anyone not a Tesla owner is incapable of critical thought?

How is this a win?

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[–] piecat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

What did you not like about his process?

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[–] Crampon@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago*

I have no doubt the car will crash.

But I do feel there is something strange about the car disengaging the auto pilot (cruise control) just before the crash. How can the car know it's crashing while simultaneously not knowing it's crashing?

I drive a model 3 myself, and there is so much bad shit about the auto pilot and rain sensors. But I have never experienced, or heard anyone else experiencing a false positive were the car disengage the auto pilot under any conditions the way shown in the video with o sound or visual cue. Considering how bad the sensors on the car is, its strange they're state of the art every time an accident happens. There is dissonance between the claims.

Mark shouldn't have made so many cuts in the upload. He locks the car on 39mph on the video, but crashes at 42mph. He should have kept it clean and honest.

I want to see more of these experiments in the future. But Marks video is pretty much a commercial for the Lidar manufacturer. And commercials shouldn't be trusted.