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B.C. woman detained at U.S. border, sent to Arizona detention facility in chains (vancouversun.com)
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Summary

Jasmine Mooney, a 35-year-old Canadian woman, has been detained in U.S. immigration facilities since March 3 after attempting to enter with an incomplete Trade NAFTA work visa application.

She was initially held at San Ysidro border crossing before being transferred in chains to detention centers in San Diego and Arizona.

Her mother, Alexis Eagles, reports inhumane conditions including overcrowded concrete cells with constant lighting and inadequate facilities.

Business partner BJ McCaslin called the situation a "nightmare" while Global Affairs Canada confirmed they're aware but unable to intervene in U.S. immigration matters.

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[–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

This assumes that USA can be repaired. It's entirely possible that their people have crossed the line of no return, and are no longer able to start behaving in a civilized manner on average before crashing spectarularly.

If you don't trust in the US citizens' ability to repair their country, there's not much sense in trying to build a nice relationship with them. And I'm not saying USA cannot repair itself. Maybe it can. What I'm saying is that it is plausible that many people do not believe USA has what it takes.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I can definitely see what you're saying, and you seem to be hoping for the best and planning for the worst. Which is reasonable. I don't disagree with you but I'd add to the conversation:

    • There is meaningful resistance even now, weeks into the Trump's idiocy. Just today in the headlines on Lemmy we have judges blocking his orders, 20 states suing him for overreach, and citizens protesting. I think this resistance is bound to increase (in terms of size and urgency) as people start to see their family suffering/dying because of things like the social security payment collapse some experts are predicting.
    • American businesses are pushing back to get tariffs delayed or stopped completely and that pressure is only going to increase as economic consequences roll in. Trump can lie all he wants about how great things will be but big money isn't about to sit around while they become less big money.
    • Regardless of whether they exist as the USA or something else, there's about 345 million people south of our border in the US. Many of whom are economically tied to us and us to them. I'm not sure it's realistic to aim for a zero relationship situation or even a minimal one. It's a huge market, intertwined with ours, very close to our population centres and we're going to fall into either a beneficial or hostile relationship with a nation 10x the size of ours. I think we need to strive hard at a good relationship while simultaneously demanding respect.
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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's what wise people say. And with that attitude, you're likely to get both the good relationship and the respect.

    But yeah... I've never been to USA, or anywhere in America for that matter. But I've visited the Russia several times, and even spent a month living there. And the MAGAts are looking pretty similar to the vatniks, and the vatniks (MAGA-analogues of the Russia) have not budged to sense, and have instead consolidated their position to the point that currently 70 to 90 percent of people in the Russia fall in that category, and most of the rest are still supporting their Ruler's way. (I wonder if "Ruler" is the best way to translate "Vladelets", the phrase Putin asked to be used of him)

    There is still much hope, because in under two years there are the congressional elections, and they seem to have been designed in such a way that Trump will have a hard time trying to either prevent or fake them. But until that... I don't know... It tells a lot that none of the US products you can buy in Europe have any no-slavery-certificates such as UTZ or Rainforest Alliance. It gives me an impression that people absolutely don't care about right and wrong there at all. If they don't, why would they protest in a way that matters to Trump?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I hear you. It's absolutely insane how fast the Republicans morphed into what I now know are called vatniks. Including, unbelievably, support for Putin. I think conditions are different in the USA (for instance a lot of traditional and online media being very critical of Trump's moves) than Russia, but it remains to be seen how all this plays out. I fear autocracy is on the rise in many countries and definitely in the US.

    As far as morality go, the entire world has problems demanding ethical treatment for people far away. Products of all kinds are made in terrible conditions, and even I'm not innocent as I own things like mobile phones. I admittedly don't know a ton about ethical guards, but I do know that even in the EU you still have companies like Nestle doing business in spite of clear exploitation. I think that is very much a humanity problem as opposed to just a US problem, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't call it out in North America or that you're wrong.

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