▲ 2022 ▼ The most popular Chinese keyboard app which is used by more than 450 million monthly users sends every key typed to Tencent in China. (citizenlab.ca) submitted 3 years ago by Tazmanian@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 460 comments fedilink hide all child comments Vulnerabilities in Sogou Keyboard encryption expose keypresses to network eavesdropping.
[–] ObamaBinLaden@lemmy.world 33 points 3 years ago (8 children) And gboard or SwiftKey don't? permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 years ago* (3 children) Every single time something sketchy is happening in Chinese tech a Lemmy user will slide the conversation and accusations to American tech. It's a rule. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) Is not about American/Chinese government, is about privacy. ANY company or government storing your data can be extremely problematic in the future. Yeah the Sogou Keyboard send data to Tencent, the same thing happens or could happens with others proprietary keyboards in the future. How about trying a FOSS one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) It's absolutely about the American/Chinese government, I don't see comments forum sliding into Chinese tech on every post about Google. But no, swift and gboard don't send your data to the American government. There's also a dangerous misconception around here that FOSS == privacy safe. It doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago There is also a differece between invading your privacy and compromising your security. Both are bad, but one is much worse at least in my view. Keylogging and then sending those keystrokes back to base with a dodgey custom rolled encryption framework is not just a breach of privacy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 4 points 3 years ago On all social media, that seems to happen and it makes me sick. People not knowing how scary the Chinese government is speaks volumes about the future of other countries. We had all the opportunity to see it happen and avoid it and these morons dismiss the truth and whatabout every damned thing permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Well, we have actual evidence here of dodgy shit happening, but what about this other thing I assume is also happening based on absolutely nothing? See, both just as bad! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 years ago* (3 children) Gboard doesn't at least. It does send some stuff but not keystrokes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago (1 child) It sends whole words instead! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 years ago* Any data you submit to Google is stored and analysed. That's different from sending keystrokes as they happen though. I'm all for criticising invasive data use and collection which Google is definitely guilty of. It's not the same as keylogging though which is not just a privacy concern but a pretty serious security one as well. Also we have actual evidence here of Tencent doing this which makes a difference to me at least. permalink fedilink source parent [–] supercheesecake@aussie.zone 4 points 3 years ago I’m not sure if that’s true. You know, it’s Google. Every keystroke in your gmail email is analysed, so can’t imagine gboard is any different to them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 3 points 3 years ago We can't know for sure if they're not open source permalink fedilink source parent [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) While GBoard is closed source, they have documented that they use federated learning. Meaning their model is generated on-device and only the inferences are sent to Google. That being said, I use OpenBoard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Plus it also has the feature where you can drag on the space bar to move the letterhead! permalink fedilink source parent [–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I prefer OpenBoard, it doesn't send keystrokes to any server permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) The fork even has support for swipe, autocorrect, word prediction, clipboard management, etc, and is way more lightweight than Gboard and the rest. Zero reason to use anything else at the moment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) What's the fork? I've been using Florisboard beta (ehich is also opensource) and pretty happy with it. The only things I miss is swipe for dictionary words permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) https://github.com/Helium314/openboard Important to note that you need to install a library from inside the app's settings to enable swipe typing. Ctrl+F "enable gesture typing" on the Github page to see where to get it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I loaded the library but couldn't see a toggle to turn it on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Uhhh it's pretty blatant. OpenBoard Settings > Gesture Typing > Enable Gesture Typing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is this a different fork permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* No, it's the fork I've linked. You got it from here, yes? Also, the option only appears after you successfully load a library by going to Advanced > Load gesture typing library. Since you said you'd already loaded it I didn't mention that. You might've loaded the incorrect file or something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 years ago They don't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not if you block internet connection at system level. I think it can be done if GBoard in installed as an user app, not as a system one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Might as well just use Open Board. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Of course. My "problem" is that I need to write in 3 languages at the same time and switching languages manually in Open board is a bit cumbersome, while in GBoard it happens automatically. permalink fedilink source parent [+] _I_@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) This "they're all bad" shit aimed at the Chinese government makes me so sad. How many of you dullards have even heard of Tienanmen square permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) The downvotes tell me some people need to Google Tienanmen square. From outside China. Inside china, it didn't happen. Erases from history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] addie@feddit.uk 9 points 3 years ago It's not called the 'Tiananmen Square' by the Chinese - that's just the name of the place. Either 六四屠殺 (June 4 massacre) or 六四鎮壓 (June 4 crackdown) would be more likely. And yes, expect loads of downvoting on Lemmy if you're ever critical of China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 years ago* (3 children) Every single time something sketchy is happening in Chinese tech a Lemmy user will slide the conversation and accusations to American tech. It's a rule. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) Is not about American/Chinese government, is about privacy. ANY company or government storing your data can be extremely problematic in the future. Yeah the Sogou Keyboard send data to Tencent, the same thing happens or could happens with others proprietary keyboards in the future. How about trying a FOSS one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) It's absolutely about the American/Chinese government, I don't see comments forum sliding into Chinese tech on every post about Google. But no, swift and gboard don't send your data to the American government. There's also a dangerous misconception around here that FOSS == privacy safe. It doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago There is also a differece between invading your privacy and compromising your security. Both are bad, but one is much worse at least in my view. Keylogging and then sending those keystrokes back to base with a dodgey custom rolled encryption framework is not just a breach of privacy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 4 points 3 years ago On all social media, that seems to happen and it makes me sick. People not knowing how scary the Chinese government is speaks volumes about the future of other countries. We had all the opportunity to see it happen and avoid it and these morons dismiss the truth and whatabout every damned thing permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Well, we have actual evidence here of dodgy shit happening, but what about this other thing I assume is also happening based on absolutely nothing? See, both just as bad! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) Is not about American/Chinese government, is about privacy. ANY company or government storing your data can be extremely problematic in the future. Yeah the Sogou Keyboard send data to Tencent, the same thing happens or could happens with others proprietary keyboards in the future. How about trying a FOSS one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) It's absolutely about the American/Chinese government, I don't see comments forum sliding into Chinese tech on every post about Google. But no, swift and gboard don't send your data to the American government. There's also a dangerous misconception around here that FOSS == privacy safe. It doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago There is also a differece between invading your privacy and compromising your security. Both are bad, but one is much worse at least in my view. Keylogging and then sending those keystrokes back to base with a dodgey custom rolled encryption framework is not just a breach of privacy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) It's absolutely about the American/Chinese government, I don't see comments forum sliding into Chinese tech on every post about Google. But no, swift and gboard don't send your data to the American government. There's also a dangerous misconception around here that FOSS == privacy safe. It doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago There is also a differece between invading your privacy and compromising your security. Both are bad, but one is much worse at least in my view. Keylogging and then sending those keystrokes back to base with a dodgey custom rolled encryption framework is not just a breach of privacy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago There is also a differece between invading your privacy and compromising your security. Both are bad, but one is much worse at least in my view. Keylogging and then sending those keystrokes back to base with a dodgey custom rolled encryption framework is not just a breach of privacy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 4 points 3 years ago On all social media, that seems to happen and it makes me sick. People not knowing how scary the Chinese government is speaks volumes about the future of other countries. We had all the opportunity to see it happen and avoid it and these morons dismiss the truth and whatabout every damned thing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Well, we have actual evidence here of dodgy shit happening, but what about this other thing I assume is also happening based on absolutely nothing? See, both just as bad! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 years ago* (3 children) Gboard doesn't at least. It does send some stuff but not keystrokes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] echo64@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago (1 child) It sends whole words instead! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 years ago* Any data you submit to Google is stored and analysed. That's different from sending keystrokes as they happen though. I'm all for criticising invasive data use and collection which Google is definitely guilty of. It's not the same as keylogging though which is not just a privacy concern but a pretty serious security one as well. Also we have actual evidence here of Tencent doing this which makes a difference to me at least. permalink fedilink source parent [–] supercheesecake@aussie.zone 4 points 3 years ago I’m not sure if that’s true. You know, it’s Google. Every keystroke in your gmail email is analysed, so can’t imagine gboard is any different to them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 3 points 3 years ago We can't know for sure if they're not open source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echo64@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago (1 child) It sends whole words instead! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 years ago* Any data you submit to Google is stored and analysed. That's different from sending keystrokes as they happen though. I'm all for criticising invasive data use and collection which Google is definitely guilty of. It's not the same as keylogging though which is not just a privacy concern but a pretty serious security one as well. Also we have actual evidence here of Tencent doing this which makes a difference to me at least. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 years ago* Any data you submit to Google is stored and analysed. That's different from sending keystrokes as they happen though. I'm all for criticising invasive data use and collection which Google is definitely guilty of. It's not the same as keylogging though which is not just a privacy concern but a pretty serious security one as well. Also we have actual evidence here of Tencent doing this which makes a difference to me at least. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supercheesecake@aussie.zone 4 points 3 years ago I’m not sure if that’s true. You know, it’s Google. Every keystroke in your gmail email is analysed, so can’t imagine gboard is any different to them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 3 points 3 years ago We can't know for sure if they're not open source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) While GBoard is closed source, they have documented that they use federated learning. Meaning their model is generated on-device and only the inferences are sent to Google. That being said, I use OpenBoard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Plus it also has the feature where you can drag on the space bar to move the letterhead! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Plus it also has the feature where you can drag on the space bar to move the letterhead! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I prefer OpenBoard, it doesn't send keystrokes to any server permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) The fork even has support for swipe, autocorrect, word prediction, clipboard management, etc, and is way more lightweight than Gboard and the rest. Zero reason to use anything else at the moment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) What's the fork? I've been using Florisboard beta (ehich is also opensource) and pretty happy with it. The only things I miss is swipe for dictionary words permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) https://github.com/Helium314/openboard Important to note that you need to install a library from inside the app's settings to enable swipe typing. Ctrl+F "enable gesture typing" on the Github page to see where to get it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I loaded the library but couldn't see a toggle to turn it on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Uhhh it's pretty blatant. OpenBoard Settings > Gesture Typing > Enable Gesture Typing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is this a different fork permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* No, it's the fork I've linked. You got it from here, yes? Also, the option only appears after you successfully load a library by going to Advanced > Load gesture typing library. Since you said you'd already loaded it I didn't mention that. You might've loaded the incorrect file or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) The fork even has support for swipe, autocorrect, word prediction, clipboard management, etc, and is way more lightweight than Gboard and the rest. Zero reason to use anything else at the moment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) What's the fork? I've been using Florisboard beta (ehich is also opensource) and pretty happy with it. The only things I miss is swipe for dictionary words permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) https://github.com/Helium314/openboard Important to note that you need to install a library from inside the app's settings to enable swipe typing. Ctrl+F "enable gesture typing" on the Github page to see where to get it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I loaded the library but couldn't see a toggle to turn it on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Uhhh it's pretty blatant. OpenBoard Settings > Gesture Typing > Enable Gesture Typing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is this a different fork permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* No, it's the fork I've linked. You got it from here, yes? Also, the option only appears after you successfully load a library by going to Advanced > Load gesture typing library. Since you said you'd already loaded it I didn't mention that. You might've loaded the incorrect file or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] portside@monyet.cc 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) What's the fork? I've been using Florisboard beta (ehich is also opensource) and pretty happy with it. The only things I miss is swipe for dictionary words permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) https://github.com/Helium314/openboard Important to note that you need to install a library from inside the app's settings to enable swipe typing. Ctrl+F "enable gesture typing" on the Github page to see where to get it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I loaded the library but couldn't see a toggle to turn it on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Uhhh it's pretty blatant. OpenBoard Settings > Gesture Typing > Enable Gesture Typing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is this a different fork permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* No, it's the fork I've linked. You got it from here, yes? Also, the option only appears after you successfully load a library by going to Advanced > Load gesture typing library. Since you said you'd already loaded it I didn't mention that. You might've loaded the incorrect file or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) https://github.com/Helium314/openboard Important to note that you need to install a library from inside the app's settings to enable swipe typing. Ctrl+F "enable gesture typing" on the Github page to see where to get it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I loaded the library but couldn't see a toggle to turn it on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Uhhh it's pretty blatant. OpenBoard Settings > Gesture Typing > Enable Gesture Typing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is this a different fork permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* No, it's the fork I've linked. You got it from here, yes? Also, the option only appears after you successfully load a library by going to Advanced > Load gesture typing library. Since you said you'd already loaded it I didn't mention that. You might've loaded the incorrect file or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I loaded the library but couldn't see a toggle to turn it on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Uhhh it's pretty blatant. OpenBoard Settings > Gesture Typing > Enable Gesture Typing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is this a different fork permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* No, it's the fork I've linked. You got it from here, yes? Also, the option only appears after you successfully load a library by going to Advanced > Load gesture typing library. Since you said you'd already loaded it I didn't mention that. You might've loaded the incorrect file or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Uhhh it's pretty blatant. OpenBoard Settings > Gesture Typing > Enable Gesture Typing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is this a different fork permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* No, it's the fork I've linked. You got it from here, yes? Also, the option only appears after you successfully load a library by going to Advanced > Load gesture typing library. Since you said you'd already loaded it I didn't mention that. You might've loaded the incorrect file or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] portside@monyet.cc 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is this a different fork permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* No, it's the fork I've linked. You got it from here, yes? Also, the option only appears after you successfully load a library by going to Advanced > Load gesture typing library. Since you said you'd already loaded it I didn't mention that. You might've loaded the incorrect file or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* No, it's the fork I've linked. You got it from here, yes? Also, the option only appears after you successfully load a library by going to Advanced > Load gesture typing library. Since you said you'd already loaded it I didn't mention that. You might've loaded the incorrect file or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not if you block internet connection at system level. I think it can be done if GBoard in installed as an user app, not as a system one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Might as well just use Open Board. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Of course. My "problem" is that I need to write in 3 languages at the same time and switching languages manually in Open board is a bit cumbersome, while in GBoard it happens automatically. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Might as well just use Open Board. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Of course. My "problem" is that I need to write in 3 languages at the same time and switching languages manually in Open board is a bit cumbersome, while in GBoard it happens automatically. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Of course. My "problem" is that I need to write in 3 languages at the same time and switching languages manually in Open board is a bit cumbersome, while in GBoard it happens automatically. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) This "they're all bad" shit aimed at the Chinese government makes me so sad. How many of you dullards have even heard of Tienanmen square permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) The downvotes tell me some people need to Google Tienanmen square. From outside China. Inside china, it didn't happen. Erases from history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] addie@feddit.uk 9 points 3 years ago It's not called the 'Tiananmen Square' by the Chinese - that's just the name of the place. Either 六四屠殺 (June 4 massacre) or 六四鎮壓 (June 4 crackdown) would be more likely. And yes, expect loads of downvoting on Lemmy if you're ever critical of China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) The downvotes tell me some people need to Google Tienanmen square. From outside China. Inside china, it didn't happen. Erases from history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] addie@feddit.uk 9 points 3 years ago It's not called the 'Tiananmen Square' by the Chinese - that's just the name of the place. Either 六四屠殺 (June 4 massacre) or 六四鎮壓 (June 4 crackdown) would be more likely. And yes, expect loads of downvoting on Lemmy if you're ever critical of China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] addie@feddit.uk 9 points 3 years ago It's not called the 'Tiananmen Square' by the Chinese - that's just the name of the place. Either 六四屠殺 (June 4 massacre) or 六四鎮壓 (June 4 crackdown) would be more likely. And yes, expect loads of downvoting on Lemmy if you're ever critical of China. permalink fedilink source parent