▲ 38 ▼ Trump to revoke legal status for 240,000 Ukrainians as US steps up deportations (www.reuters.com) submitted 2 years ago by yogthos@lemmygrad.ml to c/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml 11 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 years ago (2 children) Oh shit he's deporting white people now holy shit permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It's more accurate to say, he wants (or claims to want) to. There is no guarantee that he will succeed, and in fact the numbers of people he would have to deport if he followed through on all his deportation promises (when you include all of the rhetoric about "illegal immigrants") are so large that the whole project appears to be absurd and entirely unfeasible from the get go. There is just no way you can deport millions of people without a massive mobilization effort. The costs alone would be exorbitant, and on top of that it would take years with the current processes that are in place. They would need to change the laws and switch to much more aggressive, Nazi like tactics to do it, and that would provoke resistance. Yes they can probably crush that resistance if they are prepared to escalate the level of state and right wing militia violence, but in an already very unstable and polarized political environment that is a risky move... I think Biden and Obama already did about as much deportation as they possibly could, and i expect Trump to do about the same amount. When he makes statements about all the people he's going to deport Trump is simply doing "right wing virtue signaling". It's rhetoric that plays well with his base, but that just like the promises of "re-industrialization", is probably going to be very hard to turn into reality, for practical reasons more so than political ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I mean yes you are right on those points, it's just that this ridiculous policy used to follow the following criteria However that seems to be no longer the case, at least when it comes to Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the thing with fascists - you may think you're safe because you look like them, but eventually they'll come for you too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago very true permalink fedilink source parent [–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* He's deporting proles. Same as before Edit: proles and declassified, I should probably add permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It's more accurate to say, he wants (or claims to want) to. There is no guarantee that he will succeed, and in fact the numbers of people he would have to deport if he followed through on all his deportation promises (when you include all of the rhetoric about "illegal immigrants") are so large that the whole project appears to be absurd and entirely unfeasible from the get go. There is just no way you can deport millions of people without a massive mobilization effort. The costs alone would be exorbitant, and on top of that it would take years with the current processes that are in place. They would need to change the laws and switch to much more aggressive, Nazi like tactics to do it, and that would provoke resistance. Yes they can probably crush that resistance if they are prepared to escalate the level of state and right wing militia violence, but in an already very unstable and polarized political environment that is a risky move... I think Biden and Obama already did about as much deportation as they possibly could, and i expect Trump to do about the same amount. When he makes statements about all the people he's going to deport Trump is simply doing "right wing virtue signaling". It's rhetoric that plays well with his base, but that just like the promises of "re-industrialization", is probably going to be very hard to turn into reality, for practical reasons more so than political ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I mean yes you are right on those points, it's just that this ridiculous policy used to follow the following criteria However that seems to be no longer the case, at least when it comes to Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the thing with fascists - you may think you're safe because you look like them, but eventually they'll come for you too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago very true permalink fedilink source parent
[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I mean yes you are right on those points, it's just that this ridiculous policy used to follow the following criteria However that seems to be no longer the case, at least when it comes to Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the thing with fascists - you may think you're safe because you look like them, but eventually they'll come for you too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago very true permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the thing with fascists - you may think you're safe because you look like them, but eventually they'll come for you too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago very true permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* He's deporting proles. Same as before Edit: proles and declassified, I should probably add permalink fedilink source parent