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Trump, the dumbest man on earth, just doubled down on his dumb. (lemmy.ca)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/canada@lemmy.ca
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[–] 55 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It will be a shit show until Canada and the rest of the western world work out agreements independent of the US.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Isolating a fascist power with the strongest military in the world doesn't work. Eventually they work up the balls to use it.

    Every nation should be prepared for what happens when the purge of the US military and government is complete and only loyalists hold power.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And another thing. Its America's job to police this mess, they installed him either directly or indirectly. The rest of the world didn't ask or vote for this dangerous toddler.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    There are plenty of the dead who weren't responsible for what killed them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not sure what to make of that in context. Do you mean that we should just suck it up?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    What happens if a NATO country Attack another NATO country?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    No joke, I can see UK and France offering nuclear retaliation response promise to Canada, outside of NATO. I think trump really is dumb enough to start real war with for example Canada. NATO is dead, rest of the west needs to make similar protection agreements without USA, besides NATO , for when shit really hits the fan (I think it will, it's a matter of when, not if).

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well, article 5 doesn't apply then. Other agreements may still apply.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Of course it applies! Where are you getting that it doesn't from?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    From article 5 from the NATO treaty actually. It states that it applies to attacks from external actors, i.e. non-members.

    Edit: the article or nato treaty doesn't state it that explicitly actually. But a quick google show that it's at least the consensus interpretation

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    It has been hotly debated, mostly in regards to Greece and Türkiye, who have been at each other's throats for decades. In that case, the aggressor likely wouldn't be obvious and both are likely to claim article 5. Their relations to other NATO members are also a lot more ambiguous, some favoring one, some the other.

    In the case of a rogue USA attacking Canada, or Denmark, I believe the case would be a lot clearer.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Over here in the EU we still need gas and oil. I'd much rather import it from Canada than from Qatar or some other middle eastern dictatorship.

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