▲ 128 ▼ Trump, Vance Clash With Zelensky During White House Meeting (news.antiwar.com) submitted 2 years ago by NightOwl@lemmy.ca to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] AxiomShell@lemmy.ml -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I knew you would get it, eventually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I have a theoretical question, just to better understand your logic, if you don't mind. If I get into power - I will make it legal to hunt down and murder liberals (that's basically what liberals support happening under Zelensky's regime to me, so I think it's absolutely fair). Obviously it wouldn't be considered murder under my new law (like you don't consider kidnapping a kidnapping), but there would a term for it, like "making word a better place" (a la "arresting draft dodgers") or something like this. Now, someone "makes world a better place" to your friends/family/etc. (we assume they are liberals). Will you say that what happened was "world was made a better place", or that those people were murdered? If your answer is not "the world was made a better place" - why? How is this situation different from the kidnapping not being kidnapping because there is a law that says it's not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago You see, you can't say that the germans were murdering jews since it was under a legalist framework 🤓 permalink fedilink source parent [+] AxiomShell@lemmy.ml -9 points 2 years ago (2 children) This is a really convoluted way of asking "is arresting someone the same as kidnapping?" the answer is no. Kidnapping is forcibly detaining someone in an illegal fashion. Hence, the police arresting someone for commiting a crime is not "kidnapping", whether you agree with the law or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 11 points 2 years ago You didn't answer my question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago sophistry is just going to get you a punch on the face in the real world bud permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I have a theoretical question, just to better understand your logic, if you don't mind. If I get into power - I will make it legal to hunt down and murder liberals (that's basically what liberals support happening under Zelensky's regime to me, so I think it's absolutely fair). Obviously it wouldn't be considered murder under my new law (like you don't consider kidnapping a kidnapping), but there would a term for it, like "making word a better place" (a la "arresting draft dodgers") or something like this. Now, someone "makes world a better place" to your friends/family/etc. (we assume they are liberals). Will you say that what happened was "world was made a better place", or that those people were murdered? If your answer is not "the world was made a better place" - why? How is this situation different from the kidnapping not being kidnapping because there is a law that says it's not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago You see, you can't say that the germans were murdering jews since it was under a legalist framework 🤓 permalink fedilink source parent [+] AxiomShell@lemmy.ml -9 points 2 years ago (2 children) This is a really convoluted way of asking "is arresting someone the same as kidnapping?" the answer is no. Kidnapping is forcibly detaining someone in an illegal fashion. Hence, the police arresting someone for commiting a crime is not "kidnapping", whether you agree with the law or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 11 points 2 years ago You didn't answer my question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago sophistry is just going to get you a punch on the face in the real world bud permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago You see, you can't say that the germans were murdering jews since it was under a legalist framework 🤓 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AxiomShell@lemmy.ml -9 points 2 years ago (2 children) This is a really convoluted way of asking "is arresting someone the same as kidnapping?" the answer is no. Kidnapping is forcibly detaining someone in an illegal fashion. Hence, the police arresting someone for commiting a crime is not "kidnapping", whether you agree with the law or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 11 points 2 years ago You didn't answer my question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago sophistry is just going to get you a punch on the face in the real world bud permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 11 points 2 years ago You didn't answer my question. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago sophistry is just going to get you a punch on the face in the real world bud permalink fedilink source parent