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Framework’s first desktop is a strange—but unique—mini ITX gaming PC (arstechnica.com)
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[–] 29 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I understand the memory constraints but it does feel weird for framework, is all I have to say. But that's also the general trajectory of computing from what it seems. I really want lpcamm to catch on!

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Apparently Framework did try to get AMD to use LPCAMM, but it just didn't work from a signal integrity standpoint at the kind of speeds they need to run the memory at.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Sounds like it doesn't bode well for the future of DIMMs at all, TBH.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    My AM5 system doesn't post with 128GB of 5600 DDR5 at higher than 4400 at JEDEC timings and voltage. 2 DIMMs are fine. 4 DIMMs... rip. So I'd say the present of DIMMs is already a bit shaky. DIMMs are great for lots of cheap RAM. I paid a lot less than what I'd have to pay for the equivalent size of RAM in a Framework desktop.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Eventually most system RAM will have to be packaged anyway. Physics dictates that one pays a penalty going over pins and mobo traces, and it gets more severe with every advancement.

    It's possible that external RAM will eventually evolve into a "2nd tier" of system memory, for background processes, spillover, inactive programs/data, things like that.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's already fourth tier after L1, L2, L3 caches.

    Maybe something like optane will make a comeback. Having 16gb of soldered RAM and 500gb of relatively slow, but inexpensive optane RAM would be great.

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