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Workers at NASA Told to ‘Drop Everything’ to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites (www.404media.co)
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[–] 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

So you don't see the discrimination against non white people as a problem then?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    I'm saying those statistics do not say that NASA discriminates against non-whites. They could, but theres no proof of it. Applying a blanket rule to all business whether they are discriminating or not is over-reaching.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Excuse me? The Audit made to look how much discrimination NASA is doing that states that there had been no progress in lessening (hiring) discrimination in a decade (!) doesn't show discrimination?

    I already have shown proof of systemic discrimination in the hiring process against non whites. Of course a blanked rule is sensible to help mitigate this.

    What is the worst that can happen? A company that didn't discriminate in the first place won't be affected such a rule besides some paperwork maybe. But since most do (see the study above) it sure would help.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children)

    https://federalnewsnetwork.com/workforce/2022/10/case-alleging-racial-discrimination-in-nasas-employee-evaluations-set-to-move-forward/?readmore=1

    Here's an example of NASA discriminating, and the legal process to rectify it. Thats appropriate. Showing some arbitrary numbers and saying they aren't high enough is nonsense.

    A company that doesnt discriminate might need to hire people it doesnt want to just to fill a quota. Thats wasteful, and disrespectful to the people hired.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    If they weren't discriminating they wouldn't have to fill the quota.

    I know about the case, but it is not decided and started on 2011. It not nothing, but it's easy to dismiss on that base, so I didn't bring it up.

    How do you arrive at the conclusion those numbers have been set arbitrary? I am repeating myself, but the absolutely not arbitrary number here is that NASA has as many non white people then 10 ysads before. So even with DEI Programms they haven't been able to imply more non whites. In ten 10 years. That's not arbitrary, it's quite clear effidence of how a the people making bring decisions are biased towards white employees.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    The arbitrary numbers are that NASA should have "more minorities than 10 years ago". Why 10 years ago? Why more then they had then? Isn't NASA famous for working on DEI for more than 50 years, before it was even called DEI?

    If they had or have unfair hiring practices, show me an example. Surely theres someone who was the most qualified but passed over for being a minority.

    I'm not against DEI, just not every company is the same. Also I dont see much DEI for jobs where white people are the minority. I got fired from a job in my teens because the supervisor thought I was a lazy white person who " couldn't even do the jobs our women do", and 90% of the workers were from Mexico. Wheres my DEI initiative?

    Maybe I love hard labour and it sucks I can't get a job in it because everyone thinks I'll be lazy and demand extra benefits.

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