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“We just lost 3TB of data on a SanDisk Extreme SSD” - The Verge (www.theverge.com)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Anyone else have a similar experience with one of these drives?

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[–] 478 points 3 years ago (12 children)

What the fuck are all these comments?

It's an article about an unresolved and recurring problem with a popular drive that the ostensibly reputable manufacturer is trying to hide.

But 90% of the comments are people jerking themselves off about how smart they are for using RAID, which is irrelevant to the point of the article... But never miss an opportunity to pleasure yourself in public I guess?

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  • [–] 131 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Lemmy definitely showing the same symptoms as Reddit as it grows. Too many people trying to show off how technically smart they are and just come off as obnoxious dweebs

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  • [–] 59 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I don't know why people think that this behavior would ever be restricted to Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc.?

    There's one common element in all these systems...

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  • [–] 34 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It's becoming more and more noticeable and it's making me sad.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    The thing is, there's nothing wrong with sharing knowledge or pointing out best practices. What sucks is people replying JUST to point out the flaws and then gloat, without even fully comprehending what happened in the article. But this behavior has been around way longer than reddit.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I feel it's the same kind of people who complain regarding the same questions popping up at a forum often. I don't get why they can't just ignore them? Sure you could maybe find the answer by googling but sometimes you want to interact with others. Plus you might learn things you didn't know you should also have asked.

    My feeling is that Stackexchange is the place that has taken this the furthest with the result that new people can neither ask any questions nor get any points to get more rights on the site.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    It think it has always been there, it's part of the internet and tech culture. Lemmy is not going to magically change that. We can try to make it better by writing good contributions and supporting those who do.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Lemmy guess... this is your 2nd go with a social media platform?

    Lemmy sit you down on my knee son and let grandpa here explain how social media worked in his old times of facebook just like I sat on my grandpappys knee and he explained to me the days of AIM.

    /s

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  • [+] -13 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    And what's most important is you putting smart people down to make yourself feel superior to them

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  • [–] 36 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    What, you don't do RAID-6 and carry around 5 external USB drives to move your data between locations? It's just so convenient. 🤣

    Seriously, I don't get the raid comments at all.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago

    Lol this place is half a circle jerk of people who think they're certified geniuses for rejecting mainstream technology, tech hipsters. There was a thread about Google's "safe browsing" thing and most of the comments were just "iMaGiNe UsInG gOoGle!!*

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    My only counter argument is that the verge article should also have stuck to the failures/defect, and either not mentioned their own dataloss, or at least mention possible mitigation strategies. I understand not everyone can do proper backups, but the verge can, and they should lead by example.

    As for a comment on the actual drive defect, this is probably one of those cases where you want to insist on a refund. If the problem is as widespread as claimed, then getting a new defective drive doesn't really help. WD/sandisk should just be recalling and refunding all devices. It's odd that tech stuff never seems to have recalls in the same way that cars do? They seem to just rely on individual RMAs.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Aren't usually recalls mostly for cases where it would cause personal injuries and as such the damages to the company are far bigger than not doing the recall.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    Why is your comment with so many upvotes but I still had to scroll down to find it. Everything above is kinda morbid. Im glad I scrolled enough, was worried a bit 🤣

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Did you read the article? Because as far as I can see it fails to actually say shit about the problem. From just this article I can see why people are blaming the author for not having redundancy.

    The Arstechnica articles however do actually say what's going on, so yeah this appears to be a real issue with these drives disconnecting.

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  • [+] -38 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    irrelevant to the point of the article

    What are you talking about? Of course it's relevant.

    Hard drives are unreliable, they always have been and they probably always will be.

    I've personally had three drives fail in the last 12 months - two HDDs and one SSD. And both of those were internal hard drives either in a data center or at least on a desk in a properly climate controlled office. All three of them were from far more reputable manufacturers than WD. I suspect none of those failures were the actual disk by the way pretty sure they were all chipset or firmware failures.

    Your solution doesn't have to be RAID, but it has to be something better than "I'll just keep this file on a single drive".

    WD should absolutely do better - but at the same time even if they did do better it still wouldn't be good enough. There shouldn't be any data loss when (not if) a drive fails.

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  • [–] 37 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Stop focusing on the title. The lost data isn’t the point. The defect is the point.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago

    there are 2 discussions happening: 1 about the product the article is talking about, and another about the tangentially related topic of disk failure in general

    i see no problem here… or are we only allowed to discuss the specific points the article mentions now and absolutely under no circumstances are we allowed to have discussions about anything else…?

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  • [+] -9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Second paragraph of the article: "My colleague Vjeran just lost 3TB of video".

    It's not just the title, the entire article is about data loss. To be honest what really bothers me about the article is the whole thing points fingers at WD for making a mistake, while conveniently ignoring that fact that a Verge employee also made a mistake and I'd argue a worse one by failing to backup their data.

    If the article was about "it's annoying to have to wait for a replacement drive to be sent" then I'd be right on board. But that's not what the article is about.

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  • [+] -39 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Then the article title should be less click bait termed and properly address that there's a major firmware fault in the drives.

    Journalism is lost on generating clicks and user turmoil rather than servicing the public in any way.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Or maybe people should actually read articles first instead of commenting based off just reading the “click bait“ headline?

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