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Netanyahu claims Musk ‘falsely smeared’ over claims he made Nazi salute (www.jewishnews.co.uk)
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[+] -6 points 2 years ago (22 children)

Don't get exhausted before the real fight, otherwise we're doomed. I better start seeing more of ya'll taking the day off work and risking your salary to stop Nazi's, otherwise you might as well be one yourself.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    Dude what the fuck. This is not how you encourage action.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago* (20 children)

    Okay, keep working for your salary and don't show up to protests, see what happens. You'll either fight them eventually or take their side to pay the bills.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (17 children)

    I used to go to a lot of protests. I moved to a bigger city, partially to do so. I don't feel any of the protests moved the needle at all, unfortunately. I got a call from a former friend of mine (who had already gone off the deep end into conspiracy theories) because he saw me on Alex Jones who was rolling C-SPAN footage of a protest. It was under 10 degrees F that night. My partner at the time almost got frostbite.

    But you go on ahead and be entirely unempathetic and assuming you know people's lives based on jack shit.

    This is why we can't have nice things. People with similar political goals cannot even be slightly nice to each other. You clearly were just waiting to jump down my throat.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    Oh I used to, and still do, go to a lot of protests. I make the choice to do so, and continue doing so. I agree they haven't moved the needle one bit, which is why I keep telling everyone at these protests "We should be doing this in gated communities outside the houses of millionaires and billionaires, not outside buildings they never go to block traffic for other workers." Would you go back to protesting if say an Occupy or BLM movement happened in gated communities, outside the homes of the rich?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    Yeah, I would if anything about the protest seemed like it could make it more effective. You could stand to treat people better, and so could I. I'm in a bad fucking spot and I just really don't need to be chided like this shit is even .0000000000001% my fault. It's fucking not. I didn't ask for this shit world/country.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago* (14 children)

    Can't change the past, but we can make the future together comrade. Because doing nothing is doing something. Sorry you're having a hard time, I am too, recent Graves disease diagnoses basically has me out of work and stuck inside for the next year less I have a heart attack. Seeing that Nazi salute and everyone downplaying that has fueled a fire in me, which doesn't help my heart. I refuse to back down though and be complacent, especially if it means dying. Feels good to believe in something you're willing to die for though, beats being lost and used.

    EDIT - I want to smile like this guy one day:

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    I wish you luck with your health. The mental anguish getting inflicted right now... I don't know how we can move forward. I hope I can find a way to feel at all useful. Not seeing it, yet.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (12 children)

    I recently read the book 'Dawn of Everything' which is a somewhat expose on some of the data about humans, human nature, and inequality discovered by anthropologists and archaeologists in the last 20 or so years thanks to modern technology, and while I'm weary of any "grand narratives" on human evolution like say 'Guns, Germs, and Steel', 'Sapiens', 'The Next/Last 100 Years' I find that the actual scientific evidence paints a much more optimistic view of humans and our politics without being shy about our wickedness. In short our so-called "development" isn't linear at all, and the limits to our societies is simply our imaginations. Human beings are destined for freedom and communion, the more our technology breaks social barriers the closer we move towards a global village. The difference is I don't think we've ever been closer to that, and that excites me. Consider this my thanks :)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Thanks for that recc. I just found it on Libby. I hope it hits me like it did you.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    It's reeeeaaaaally wordy, I recommend audiobook or read along with audiobook. It's not complicated language or anything it's just reeeeaaaally dense, i'd take breaks between pages to digest what I've read.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Yeah, I went audiobook. I'm out of practice with reading books in print and I get very sleepy when I try. If I do audiobooks I can be doing other mindless tasks and also absorbing the material. And I don't mind rewinding if I miss something.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    We have a lot in common TrickDacy.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Thanks for bearing with me and turning the convo around. I really think people on the left, even if fairly different on the spectrum, really gotta stick together right now. Lemmy is often not of the same opinion in my experience.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Likewise. There is far too much ego on the left sometimes, too busy trying to dunk on eachother with who has the best theory or whatever. It's time for us to address our common goals, remember how united everyone was with Luigi for a moment? It's there, right under the surface, it's only a matter of time and £$billions are being spent trying to suppress it. They're losing, thrashing, and flailing. Idk if we should just mercy finish them off or just let nature take its course, my inner angel cries to help them but we all agree they're not trying to help us.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    There is far too much ego on the left sometimes, too busy trying to dunk on eachother with who has the best theory or whatever.

    Agreed. Countless times I've seen this. It's so counter productive. I think it happens because we are all so pissed off that we vent our anger when we get a chance. Simple, stupid, human nature.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's animalistic nature to blow off steam, it's human nature to take a deep breath and respond instead of react. But yeah, I think the reason us leftist fight so much is because we're the only ones willing to give eachother the conversation xD

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    the reason us leftist fight so much is because we’re the only ones willing to give eachother the conversation

    That is interesting. I'd not considered that but it does sort of make sense. For years I tried to talk to my conservative parents, friends, and family about this stuff. I don't think they ever listened, truly.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Yeah I know what you mean. Sucks too when they call themselves liberals but are conservatives in practice, they live in a very comfortable little box thanks to their paychecks, so they have no reason or need to think about the problems because "The markets are better than ever, it's working well for me, I need to work with it to feed my family." Historically, it's always those people who turn coat and turn reporter for the fascists to save their own skin. Hence my statement that if you choose your comfort and paycheck over resisting against tyranny then you're part of the problem (the royal you, not you in particular.)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    limits to our societies is simply our imaginations

    Just to add, I think this is and always has been true. It was always what I found comforting. I used to be way more hopeful.

    ...It's just a question of whose imaginations get acted upon.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    The acting part is important. They're all action and no theory, we're all theory and no action. I mean they stormed the capitol for god's sake. I want to start reading more on Fred Hampton, Angela Davis, Gil Scott Heron, back when the left still existed before being squashed by the police and FBI. Their torch needs to be carried now more than ever.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’m not totally convinced that protests matter at all. Riots seem to be much more effective. And labor strikes. If you can file a permit to protest then you already know that it’s permitted because it’s not a threat to the system.

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