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We're the creators of Lemmy, Ask Us Anything. Starts Monday, 7 Aug, 1500 CEST (lemmy.ml)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by [M] to c/announcements@lemmy.ml
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This is an opportunity for any users, server admins, or interested third parties to ask anything they'd like to @nutomic@lemmy.ml and I about Lemmy. This includes its development and future, as well as wider issues relevant to the social media landscape today.

Note: This will be the thread tmrw, so you can use this thread to ask and vote on questions beforehand.

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[–] 42 points 3 years ago (19 children)

The instance list is fine as is. Think about it like this: do you want racists to join a single instance so they are all in one place? Or do you want them to spread across all different instances, causing moderation problems everywhere?

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  • [–] 37 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Yes, I think it would be best if they would all gather on one instance that can get defederated. Right now they attract users on join-lemmy with "Use humor and facts to hold the ruling class accountable", no other info.

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  • [+] [B] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    I think you got downvoted because people were not looking for a way to make it ok for the racist instances to stay on join-lemmy.

    I am not really familiar with shadowbannig, but users could just check their posts from another instance and find out about the ban.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago* (6 children)

    And if the racist is here to cause problems rather than commiserate with fellow racists, they now know exactly which community to avoid, thus restoring moderation problems everywhere. I don't think anyone is asking you to moderate every instance to ensure they are sticking to your TOS or your viewpoints, but it's a very minor ask to not showcase off the racists and transphobes and bigots on the 'join this platform' page.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    There are plenty of other instance lists across the internet. So its not even a real solution for your theoretical problem.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    I don't think the people raising this as a concern are trying to solve the problem of bigots on the internet; they are just asking for you to change the advertising you provide to remove the bigots from a place of visibility.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    And then we should block lemmygrad, lemmy.world, hexbear and hundreds of other instances? Thats not gonna happen. If you want to block instances, do that on the beehaw side.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    This brings up an interesting point. On Mastodon, besides Block User, there is also a Block Instance option. Will we ever see that on Lemmy? Seems like an easy way to resolve what has been a big issue for me (and obviously other people too).

    Aka, you don't really want to start over on another instance (hey, not migration tools yet!) but you also don't really want to see posts from a specific server any more. Rather than people having to lobby the server admins about whether or not to defederate, wouldn't it just be easier to allow user-level instance blocking? (I know I say "just" while knowing zip about how hard that as in the back end, but yes, from a logistics perspective, seems like you could make a lot of spam-level requests leave the admin's plates by implementing this.)

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

    It's possible that anti-racist, queer or any other serious organisations might not want to link to join-lemmy.org because of it.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Thats fine, they can provide their own list of instances where users can choose from.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago*

    They are on your list (which is seen as the official one by many and has most visits) to guide transphobes and fascists can be guided to their fitting community?? Exploding-heads is not labeled as transphobe and fascist. So that does't make sense.

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  • [+] 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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