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European Citizens Initiative: Connecting all European capitals and people through a high-speed train network (eci.ec.europa.eu)
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[–] -3 points 3 years ago (5 children)

No they don't, most people live outside of the capitals.

Amsterdam-Berlin is vanity project that is a diservice to both the Netherlands and Germany. The only benefactors are Amsterdam and Berlin

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I wrote it badly, sorry about that of course I know that most people in germany donβ€˜t live in berlin. I was just trying to say that it definitely is still worth it to connect these cities at some point, but currently there absolutely are more important projects.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    At somepoint probably yeah. Unfortunately, it does seem that Amsterdam-Berlin seems to be pushed for a lot, and I fear for that poor decision fucking up the rest of the raillines.

    An Amsterdam-hamburg-berlin line makes more sense imo, especially when you push it more towards the north as it doesn't cut the countries in half. It also gives you possibility to expand both north towards scandanavia, which you can extend further south to the rest of europe, or eastern europe through berlin.

    But I doubt that will happen, because that is a bit slower than through hanover

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    What would you think of a Berlin-Hamburg-Groningen-Amsterdam high-speed connection (if Germany is arsed to fix that bridge outside Leer)?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I personally like it, although it is good to check what the optimal place of the stations is. It should be both benefitial to the North of Germany and the North of the Netherlands, and connect as many people in that area. So maybe you'd need an additional station near Oldenberg or Bremen to not skip over too much of east Germany.

    If you also place a High speed line south from Amsterdam-Essen-(further south like) and Essen-Hanover-Hamburg, you have most of that area covered.

    But my guess is that they'd build an Amsterdam-Hanover-Berlin line, especially when they don't plan ahead.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    This could route still stop at Hannover, which is well-linked to Hamburg and if they actually build a new, more northern route than the existing one, other trains could use the route, too. Or the train from Copenhagen to Amsterdam stops in Hamburg.
    The Ruhr area is already served an ICE connection from Cologne to Amsterdam.
    It's not a vanity project at all.

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