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Ironically, Zoom tells employees to return to office for work (nypost.com)
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[–] -3 points 3 years ago (8 children)

It could be for some things, especially for larger scale coordination. That a company like Zoom, which could easily dogfood its productivity tools to create better ones wants engineers back in the office at least part of the time may indicate that there are some issues with full remote.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    What managers and CEOs don't get is that you better have a problem that requires loads of "team spirit" and "culture", or otherwise the added stress from commuting, in-person interactions, not being at your own place, etc... is going to be a drag for regular work.

    So you either really really have a problem that requires people to be in office or you are better off letting people choose where to they work.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    That assumes that regular work doesn't require coordination or can't be helped by knowing there other people they work with and remembering that their coworkers are human.

    I've had junior staff self-report that they don't ask as many questions as they should when working even though instant messaging, video calls, and screen sharing tools are there. They also don't always know there may be others they can ask as those relationships take longer to develop full remote.

    I've got one coworker who sounds nice in the office but will scream at those working under them on video calls for an extended period of time. They like working remote, but others aren't exactly a fan of it.

    I've seen email chains go from coordination to accusation to fighting because there isn't as much room to maneuver and be wrong in email or Slack compared to being in person.

    That isn't "team spirit" exactly, but maybe an attempt to create a more collaborative "culture". And coordination is part of the work, even if it doesn't feel like "work".

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    I wonder how a tiny company such as Microsoft is able to pull it off? We've been fully work-from-home-or-office pre-pandemic and no one seems to care as long as your team's results are fine.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    Hybrid or is full remote still acceptable?

    Also, it would be interesting to know if some teams lost the ability to do full remote because of performance and what were the decisions that would trigger that.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Yes, most teams work remote, unless they have specific requirements, e.g. hardware, network setups etc. However many engineering teams love to hang out together a few days per week so they meet in the office. Consultants/services/support are fully remote and these team are usually distributed so they almost never meet in person.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    And that makes sense that the development teams have some face time while the support staff which don't need to interact with others work full remote.

    However, it does set a standard that those who show up to the office are more likely to move up in their careers.

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