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EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force (www.france24.com)
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[–] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

While this is good news, the likes of Apple will still find ways to be "compliant" while still being total assholes about it. e.g. the device might charge with USB C but they'll gimp the data transfer rates on non-pro phones. And they'll do the same when mandates about repairability come in - all of a sudden the battery will have a bunch of expensive DRM'd up the ass circuitry attached to it that will cripple the phone if its not recognized or registered by one of their techs and means Apple can kill old phones by being "out of stock" of the battery.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    e.g. the device might charge with USB C but they’ll gimp the data transfer rates on non-pro phones.

    Just so you know, there are others who have slow speed on USB Type-C already. My mother's Galaxy A52 has a USB Type-C port that has only USB 2.0 support for data transfer, but with USB PD 3.0 PPS charging up to 25 W.

    To me it's legitimate to use USB Type-C for better power delivery even if the chipset runs only at USB 2.0 speeds for data transfer. But hobbling a fast chipset just for product segmentation would be shitty. It is something I could see Apple doing though.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Apple claim that they will get around to implementing 3.0 data transverse speeds when they next refresh their chipsets, but they haven't had time yet. I'm skeptical about this excuse because it's not like this law is a shock to them, they've known it's coming for the best part of 5 years, which is proved by how much they try to argue against it.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (14 children)

    Honestly, people who still buy apple phones are dumb fucks. No way to say this nicely.

    There's a weird discrepancy where Mac Laptops are decent machines despite being on the expensive side, but iphones are just overpriced hot garbage locking you into an ecosystem.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I'm not an apple fan, but this is just a dumb take. they have their place, even if it's not under your ownership.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    iphones have a place about as useful as diamonds - as a status symbol alone. They are used to create out-groups and discriminate against poor people.

    The original iphone may have been useful - the update hype with ever more expensive BS is just milking stupid people for cash.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    There’s really no need to take sides when it comes to the phones from giant corporation A vs giant corporation B. To most users, an iPhone is a hand-held screen that launches your apps, just like everything else from a bloated Samsung to a Graphene’d Pixel.

    And it’s not that I want to defend Apple on Lemmy, so I’m not gonna, but it seems like all the other mainstream options are as bad or worse in many areas. (Privacy, duration of software support, etc)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    degoogled free phones with e.g. LineageOS are better. But monopolists make it a nightmare to get one running. However, the issue I am taking with iphones is not the usefulness to the user, but the ridiculous price for a phone that is manufactured by basically slaves under nightmarish conditions (remember suicide nets @ Foxconn buildings?) with materials from conflict zones (read: mine workers have their families butchered with machetes if they try to unionize) - so on top of these crimes against humanity, that most of the others commit as well, apple is still charging a price that is purely through the roof because of demand from an artificial hype, and that would be easily enough to build the whole phone under fair trade / fair labor conditions.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, at first I was going to agree that it’s sad that the general population doesn’t care much about slave labor in their iPhones as long as it saves them money and doesn’t get blood directly on their hands.

    But then I think that is kinda true of the whole phone market.

    But then I think that is kinda true of the whole everything market!

    And once again a Lemmy comment comes to the conclusion that capitalism is the problem, lol.

    But Apple is the most valuable company in the world, and therefore is the most capitalism, so I guess that makes it OK again to single them out.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    And once again a Lemmy comment comes to the conclusion that capitalism is the problem, lol.

    Yeah, if only we could have a revolution and Marie Antoinette some of the slave owners.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    For the longest time I never thought I’d see anything like that. Most people were too comfortable. Some always had too little and some too much, but it wasn’t going to upend society.

    But lately, sheesh. It seems both more likely and more necessary. I can’t tell what is increasing faster, the anger of the working class or the brazen indifference of the owner class.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    the "status" issue is a completely different argument than what I replied to.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I was honestly on the fence of getting a MacBook recently as my first newly purchased Laptop, but ultimately decided against it.

    Got a fully decked out ThinkPad P14s instead for about 1800€. Meanwhile the new M4 MacBook Pro starts at 1900€. But I agree that Macs still are good value compared other Apple products.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Apple is absolutely overpriced dogshit. There is no legtimitation for the prices they charge. However, Apple has two advantages(as far from what I heard from a lot of others). Its brain dead easy and works. Every Idiot is capable of using apple and won't have that much problems with it. Apple is the right thing for the digital toddlers that want to have it easy. The Ecosystem is great as long as you don't want to break out of it.

    I personally would never buy Apple since I like a certain form of complexity and don't want a completely locked down system. However, if you only care about something where you don't have to think and that just works, Apple is The right thing for you.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    Its brain dead easy and works. Every Idiot is capable of using apple and won’t have that much problems with it.

    Thinking like that, I bought an ipad gaming controller for a friend's child. Turns out NOTHING worked until you connected it via a well hidden USB cable to a Windows(!) computer, downloaded a firmware flasher and updated the firmware. So Even "it is easy and works" is a lie. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...

    Nah - Macbooks were an alternative at work purely because they are less shit than Windows and corporate allowed them. I have since freed myself from corporate IT jackasses and use my self installed linux box for work. But beyond that, all of Apple is - as you say - absolutely overpriced dogshit.

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