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No, Kamala Harris Staffers Did Not Run a “Flawless” Campaign (www.thenation.com)

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Democratic strategists are still patting themselves on the back for a catastrophic defeat.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can agree with that. People are so sick of things they want a disruptor. It's hard to present yourself as that when you're currently in office.

Going to the comment I replied to, most people don't really know or care enough about what's going on in Palestine right now. Not that that shouldn't, just that they don't (but admittedly those who do could be critical in Michigan). Medicare for all is certainly a disruptive idea, but it's only a piece of what makes a person a disruptor. One that I'd bet not everyone fully understands.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think Palestine was a demotivating factor for a lot of people, Michigan was still a pretty incredible outlier, but Trump picked up Muslim and Arab American voters across the board. A deciding factor? No, but a factor.

Now immigration... I've talked to people who've voted democratic by rote for their entire lives who voted for Trump over immigration. It was an extremely effective talking point that was ignored by Dems early on, then ceded to Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

but Trump picked up Muslim and Arab American voters across the board.

LIke Jews voting for Hitler.

I’ve talked to people who’ve voted democratic by rote for their entire lives who voted for Trump over immigration.

Because they liked Donald Trainwreck's Mass Green Card Policy? How idiotic can people get?

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/donald-trump-immigration-expansionist/

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-fans-rebel-over-immigration-proposal-green-card-college/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I don't even think anyone thought that hard about it. Immigration scary, waves of immigrants coming into the country type rhetoric was enough. It's not even about taking jobs, these people don't engage with the fact that exploitation of mostly illegal immigrants is why they have available fruits and vegetables at all. Our entire food system is built on making immigrants do difficult, dangerous, and degrading work.

These people are worried about their taxes having to pay for illegals when they themselves are struggling. It's wild shit!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Only a vocal, very noisy minority care about Palestine. The rest pretend to care to avoid being "cancelled". And the narrow voting marging showed that.