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The EU proposal to scan all your WhatsApp chats is back on the agenda (www.techradar.com)
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[+] -13 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

And instead use what? Signal? And then chat with the zero other people who use it?

Telling europeans to not use whatsapp is like telling people not to use the power grid. It's more popular here than iMessages are in the US.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I'm European using signal, I frequent in two countries very often (not neighbouring countries) and for the past two years I've noticed more and more people using signal.

    Ditched whatsapp half a year ago and haven't had problems. Some friends use both signal and whatsapp.

    Not saying many in whole Europe use signal but it certainly is not only popular in US.

    Edit: but not saying using signal will change anything if this bill passes. No matter what popular app we use we are going to have no privacy at all if this thing passes...

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    WhatsApp uses the same encryption as Signal and chat screening won't be exclusive to WhatsApp anyway, so whatever WhatsApp will need to implement to comply, Signal will have to follow.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Signal is open source, so no it will always be available without chat control. https://github.com/signalapp

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Good luck setting up your own server and convincing everybody else to use that.

    Signal is not federated. It relies on a central server, meaning for all intends and purposes Signal controls the entire chain.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    End to end encrypted, I think chat control is all about client-side scanning so the app being open source is a big deal and would prevent client-side scanning because even if they build in client-side scanning, it's open source and people can remove it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Signal is pretty control freak-y, so would not be surprised if they can somehow prohibit third-party modifications entirely. That would be out-of-character for them, though, so doubt they would actually go through with this.

    Still, if that went through, I'd discount all the centralized solutions.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Why do you assume I'm American? I am, but you would have no way of knowing that. I could be Croatian for all you know.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I haven't made any assumptions about where you're from. I'm only arguing against the blanket statement of telling everyone to stop using whatsapp.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I dont know a single euroepean that is using WhatsApp, and im european.. i mostly encounter asian people that use it.

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