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I like the interface, and have been a user of the reddit version for years... (media.kbin.social)
submitted 3 years ago* by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[–] 160 points 3 years ago (12 children)

I don’t understand the hate for charging for a product. I pay for a Mastodon client. If a Lemmy client that I really liked cost money and I felt the price was reasonable, I’d support that developer, too.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I would pay for a good native iOS App. Memmy is nice but apps using web frameworks always have more limitations than any native one.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Mlem is SwiftUI and FOSS! I know there are some issues with the current App Store build (weeps in janky scrolling) but we've got a major update hitting beta tomorrow and the App Store as soon as Apple will allow that's going to fix it.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago*

    WOW! i did try out mlem in its early days, but since i browse lemmy mainly on ipad, it wasn’t for me so i moved to memmy

    Just checked back on it and now the iPad experience is miles better than memmy. Guess i’m coming back to mlem

    Great work guys! Looking forward to tomorrow’s testflight

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    A lot of Lemmy consists of FOSS enthusiasts, so something that's paid and proprietary wouldn't look as good in their eyes.

    There's also the fact that the free version of Sync uses (Google?) ad tracking to show you ads, so those people would also be upset.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Lemmy instances run on servers which are funded by donations. I don't see how Sync (which is made by one developer) gets to be frowned upon because there's a price for ad removal. All FOSS projects are somehow funded, usually by donations. Nothing runs for free.

    If we get to use all the FOSS Lemmy apps is because someone put in the time and money to make it happen.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    I would happily pay for any FOSS app that I use, even for higher price than proprietary ones. I personally would prefer to use a FOSS app, if the UX is somewhat on par with the proprietary ones.

    That being said, no judgement to people who prefer proprietary app. We all have different priorities, hence have to make different tradeoffs.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Nothing wrong at all with charging for the main version to support development as long as it's not gouging. I don't think this is gouging in the slightest.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I don't think price gouging is even possible unless you control most or all of whatever resource. Sync is one of many apps to access Lemmy, and it isn't forcing anyone to pay or even use it.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Oh yeah? What Mastodon client? I've just been using the 1st party client and I feel like it's pretty decent. Kinda curious how much better a client might be.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I don’t understand the hate for charging for a product

    I think the hate is mainly for the $100 lifetime payment. That's a lot for some people.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    $100 is lifetime Ultra, which is subscription otherwise. It's $20 for lifetime removal of ads.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yea I'm aware, I can read.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Your comment implied that folks need to pay $100 to use the app. Only $20 lets a user disable ads and any tracking associated. Otherwise if someone wants to try it or just doesn't feel like paying they can use it for free with the potential to get a Google ad in their scroll.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    To build on what other people are saying, the $100 also is supposed to cover the cost of running servers and networks that the app has to use for the more unique, advanced features. Those are all things that will cost the developer to keep up and running - it's honestly nice that you even have the option to pay for lifetime since, once you've used the app for six years, the dev is going to start losing money off of your using the app.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Many Americans (I'm one) cling to a variety of purity tests, and they struggle to grasp the bigger picture which could result in better outcomes for everyone.

    Black or white. Win or lose. It's a tiring cultural characteristic.

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  • [+] -25 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    It's not the charge money part. It's that it charges money and then still grabs and sells toms of your data. That's something the Lemmy crowd is super opposed to even in free products, but a subscription to have your data sold when the service itself (Lemmy) is hosted on a donation basis and does not cost the devs a cent to use is too much.

    Most of that opposition is directed at the Sync devs of course, not against some user who has made the decision that the proposal is good and decided to use Sync.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It literally doesn't do that. If you pay for it, the ad code doesn't even initialize, thus performing no tracking. And crash analytics are optional.

    At least, if we trust Laurence. I wish it was open source so we could verify, but I choose to trust him.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Hey, you do you. I'm weirded out that the app makes you accept all that stuff and is only one commented line away from collecting your stuff. But I'm not here to lecture others. If you enjoy the app and think it's money well spent, I wish that you get out of it what you hope for and that's enough for me.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    That's fair. Unfortunately Google doesn't let you make multiple versions of the same app anymore, so he can't make a second, paid version without that code. On the other hand, what's the difference between a commented line and a missing line?

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