▲ 637 ▼ Concept for deterring the selection of "no tip" (not real) (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 143 comments fedilink hide all child comments *edited post title to make it clear that this is a joke
[+] Kichae@lemmy.ca -60 points 2 years ago (6 children) it’s the restaurant’s problem, not mine But you're supporting the restaurant. You're keeping the system afloat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 112 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm supporting the restaurant by eating there, and paying menu prices for food. If they need me to pay more, they can raise their menu prices. I'm not going to guess how much things actually cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net 46 points 2 years ago spot on. I've had enough of tipping. I have gone out to eat and anywhere i get service so much less this past year, but it has been worth it. I've saved money and sparked interesting conversations with people in my circle when I bring tipping up. this is a weird hill for me to die on, but I do not care anymore. how about a discount from the restaurant because I was polite to my servers and was not a disruptive customer? no, because that doesnt make any sense lol tipping has creeped its way into everything and has turned us against each other for a batshit insane concept that should have never been normalized. if they want more money, charge more money. this guilt trip at the end of the bil they force upon me at the end of my meal is just so insane. they're just asking me to give them more money for no reason, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 years ago (3 children) Tips keep the system afloat. The reason there aren't mass strikes demanding an end to tips is because the system works for most. Sure, racial minorities are significantly discriminated against and many will receive hardly minimum wage with tips but the majority of tipped workers is fine with it. And that's all that is required for an unjust system to persist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Tipped workers are fine with it because they make more money with tips than they would on hourly wages. This is directly the fault of people feeling the need to tip egregious amounts. If people stopped tipping, or started tipping significantly worse, tipped workers would stop being okay with it really fast, and would demand an end to the system. If I go sit down in a restaurant and get table service, I tip, but I do that once a year, maybe. If I get delivery, I tip the driver. But I will absolutely not tip if I go into a restaurant, pick up food at the counter, and walk out. Never. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm confused why you draw the line there but not in the first two examples. In all your examples, those people are doing their jobs that they should be getting paid adequately for already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago I don't like being waited on; it makes me uncomfortable, even when it's someone's job to do it, and I alleviate that discomfort by tipping them for it. When I put myself in that situation I feel like I'm being lazy ("I could pick this up myself, but instead I'm having someone do it for me"), and it feels appropriate that I should pay more for the privilege of being lazy. The tip is my way of saying "Sorry you're having to do this." It's silly, I know it is, but you asked, so there's your answer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 112 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm supporting the restaurant by eating there, and paying menu prices for food. If they need me to pay more, they can raise their menu prices. I'm not going to guess how much things actually cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net 46 points 2 years ago spot on. I've had enough of tipping. I have gone out to eat and anywhere i get service so much less this past year, but it has been worth it. I've saved money and sparked interesting conversations with people in my circle when I bring tipping up. this is a weird hill for me to die on, but I do not care anymore. how about a discount from the restaurant because I was polite to my servers and was not a disruptive customer? no, because that doesnt make any sense lol tipping has creeped its way into everything and has turned us against each other for a batshit insane concept that should have never been normalized. if they want more money, charge more money. this guilt trip at the end of the bil they force upon me at the end of my meal is just so insane. they're just asking me to give them more money for no reason, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net 46 points 2 years ago spot on. I've had enough of tipping. I have gone out to eat and anywhere i get service so much less this past year, but it has been worth it. I've saved money and sparked interesting conversations with people in my circle when I bring tipping up. this is a weird hill for me to die on, but I do not care anymore. how about a discount from the restaurant because I was polite to my servers and was not a disruptive customer? no, because that doesnt make any sense lol tipping has creeped its way into everything and has turned us against each other for a batshit insane concept that should have never been normalized. if they want more money, charge more money. this guilt trip at the end of the bil they force upon me at the end of my meal is just so insane. they're just asking me to give them more money for no reason, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 years ago (3 children) Tips keep the system afloat. The reason there aren't mass strikes demanding an end to tips is because the system works for most. Sure, racial minorities are significantly discriminated against and many will receive hardly minimum wage with tips but the majority of tipped workers is fine with it. And that's all that is required for an unjust system to persist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Tipped workers are fine with it because they make more money with tips than they would on hourly wages. This is directly the fault of people feeling the need to tip egregious amounts. If people stopped tipping, or started tipping significantly worse, tipped workers would stop being okay with it really fast, and would demand an end to the system. If I go sit down in a restaurant and get table service, I tip, but I do that once a year, maybe. If I get delivery, I tip the driver. But I will absolutely not tip if I go into a restaurant, pick up food at the counter, and walk out. Never. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm confused why you draw the line there but not in the first two examples. In all your examples, those people are doing their jobs that they should be getting paid adequately for already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago I don't like being waited on; it makes me uncomfortable, even when it's someone's job to do it, and I alleviate that discomfort by tipping them for it. When I put myself in that situation I feel like I'm being lazy ("I could pick this up myself, but instead I'm having someone do it for me"), and it feels appropriate that I should pay more for the privilege of being lazy. The tip is my way of saying "Sorry you're having to do this." It's silly, I know it is, but you asked, so there's your answer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Tipped workers are fine with it because they make more money with tips than they would on hourly wages. This is directly the fault of people feeling the need to tip egregious amounts. If people stopped tipping, or started tipping significantly worse, tipped workers would stop being okay with it really fast, and would demand an end to the system. If I go sit down in a restaurant and get table service, I tip, but I do that once a year, maybe. If I get delivery, I tip the driver. But I will absolutely not tip if I go into a restaurant, pick up food at the counter, and walk out. Never. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm confused why you draw the line there but not in the first two examples. In all your examples, those people are doing their jobs that they should be getting paid adequately for already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago I don't like being waited on; it makes me uncomfortable, even when it's someone's job to do it, and I alleviate that discomfort by tipping them for it. When I put myself in that situation I feel like I'm being lazy ("I could pick this up myself, but instead I'm having someone do it for me"), and it feels appropriate that I should pay more for the privilege of being lazy. The tip is my way of saying "Sorry you're having to do this." It's silly, I know it is, but you asked, so there's your answer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm confused why you draw the line there but not in the first two examples. In all your examples, those people are doing their jobs that they should be getting paid adequately for already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago I don't like being waited on; it makes me uncomfortable, even when it's someone's job to do it, and I alleviate that discomfort by tipping them for it. When I put myself in that situation I feel like I'm being lazy ("I could pick this up myself, but instead I'm having someone do it for me"), and it feels appropriate that I should pay more for the privilege of being lazy. The tip is my way of saying "Sorry you're having to do this." It's silly, I know it is, but you asked, so there's your answer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago I don't like being waited on; it makes me uncomfortable, even when it's someone's job to do it, and I alleviate that discomfort by tipping them for it. When I put myself in that situation I feel like I'm being lazy ("I could pick this up myself, but instead I'm having someone do it for me"), and it feels appropriate that I should pay more for the privilege of being lazy. The tip is my way of saying "Sorry you're having to do this." It's silly, I know it is, but you asked, so there's your answer. permalink fedilink source parent