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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 59 points 2 years ago (8 children) How are people going to be selected for deportation? This feels eerily like what Hitler started doing with Jews. permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -32 points 2 years ago (4 children) Well actually, folks tried to tell Harris stop supporting genocide or it's Trump. You don't blame voters, you blame the individual politician for not listening to the. Kamala is single handedly responsible for all of just as Hillary was. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) No. You blame the voters for taking fascism over an imperfect candidate. If you didnt vote for Harris you are to blame and deserve everything that is going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) False. You blame Democrats for choosing it. You're thinking about it the way THEY want you to think about it. Divisively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Forbo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Blame the fucked electoral system that is completely flawed from a game theory perspective. Doesn't matter the candidates, their positions, or which election cycle it is, the thing is buggy and broken as shit, and we've never bothered patching it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) I absolutely blame some voters. Especially the ones who refused to vote for a female leader even though they didn't like Trump. Especially the ones who refused to vote at all because neither candidate was "perfect". I can slice it many ways, but none of those ways are, "Kamala is single handedly responsible". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) When enough voters say end the genocide or bust, don't be surprised when you bust after announcing continued support for genocide. Politicians need to learn to listen to voters. Do not blame voters for this trump presidentency, blame the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Cut off the nose to spite the face is quite apt here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I blame the DNC plenty, but I don't blame them solely. There are many, many people that deserve blame. Things aren't black and white, they're blurred lines of grey. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) If the voters say they're black and white it doesn't matter. The politicians need to play ball, not the other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* Or we just need to guillotine the politicians. I'm sick of playing a game to cater to them, they need to cater to us. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago If you're thinking 'bout playing ball it don't matter if they're black or white, he hee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Eh, enjoy your ended country and your genocide anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So youd rather the candidate whod worsen the genocide and do one here? Great logic that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did I just say? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for answering the question, excuse me if your position doesnt make a lick of sense. I would think harm reduction is a worthwhile goal if Gaza is such a travesty, but I guess nuking the whole place would be better apparently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago You'd think so right? But the Democrats don't agree. permalink fedilink source parent [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] timewarp@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago No, it is your own ignorance as why you lost and while you'll lose again in 4 years unless you sort yourself out and observe what happened. We tried telling you... and it was always, "c'mon just support the genocide, it'll be worse if you don't." Then it drifted to... "Kamala and Joe don't help fund genocide, it is the Republicans that make them do it. Kamala is trying to protect the Palestinians from being mass murdered." permalink fedilink source parent [+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What response? I've never seen such a long comment with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ...that's long to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unyons@feddit.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) She would've lost a ton of campaign funding if she did. It's not that simple. Millionaire/billionaire interests also have a huge influence on the democratic party. If you want to blame someone, blame the ultra-rich. They are the ones that have eroded democracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or, i dunno, maybe the Republicans for going full fucking fascism? It's always "Kamala this" or "DNC that" but it's the REPUBLICANS THAT ARE THE FUCKING NAZIS. How is Kamala more responsible for Trump than Mitch McConnell..? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] unyons@feddit.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imo she's not. But the Republican party is just a more blatant tool of the ultra-rich. They are the real enemy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No arguments from me. Wasn't calling you out personally, just that rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) The NAZIs made Germany a slave labor nation-state. That is what is happening here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago People know all about the concentration camps, but the amount of slave labor used in Nazi Germany was massive. In addition to working in factories they literally brought slaves from the Eastern Front to work in German households as maids, and dressed it up like they were happy to be there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago It's a pretext. And can expand to anyone the state doesn't want around. Deportation doesn't have to be immediate, you could end up in a cage indefinitely. Portland Oregon was a sneak preview of what Trump will do (Sending federal resources where they are explicitly not wanted, and kidnapping citizens) permalink fedilink source parent [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Well there's this handy color wheel... permalink fedilink source parent [–] jg1i@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/us/politics/denaturalization-immigrants-justice-department.html Looks like they're gonna strip citizenship from "terrorists, war criminals, sex offenders and other fraudsters who illegally obtained naturalization" Whatever "fraudsters" means... Made a mistake on the citizen application? FRAUDSTER! DEPORTED! Do all of your documents have exactly the same name, middle name, and spelling? No?? IDENTITY THIEF! DEPORTED! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago Let's see how much talent they lose with that... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago The incoming Trump administration doesn't even know who they are planning to deport. The criteria right now could be literally anything from "these specific known individuals who are illegal aliens and also criminals" to "anyone Trump or ICE doesn't like, including legal citizens who are political dissidents". If there was ever a time to own a gun in America, now is that time. Protect yourselves, people. The no-knock raids are just around the corner. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They start with a convenient group (immigrants, legal or not), and will proceed from there. Ask your history teacher about what happened in Germany after 1933, just replace the Jews with PoCs. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -32 points 2 years ago (4 children) Well actually, folks tried to tell Harris stop supporting genocide or it's Trump. You don't blame voters, you blame the individual politician for not listening to the. Kamala is single handedly responsible for all of just as Hillary was. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) No. You blame the voters for taking fascism over an imperfect candidate. If you didnt vote for Harris you are to blame and deserve everything that is going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) False. You blame Democrats for choosing it. You're thinking about it the way THEY want you to think about it. Divisively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Forbo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Blame the fucked electoral system that is completely flawed from a game theory perspective. Doesn't matter the candidates, their positions, or which election cycle it is, the thing is buggy and broken as shit, and we've never bothered patching it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) I absolutely blame some voters. Especially the ones who refused to vote for a female leader even though they didn't like Trump. Especially the ones who refused to vote at all because neither candidate was "perfect". I can slice it many ways, but none of those ways are, "Kamala is single handedly responsible". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) When enough voters say end the genocide or bust, don't be surprised when you bust after announcing continued support for genocide. Politicians need to learn to listen to voters. Do not blame voters for this trump presidentency, blame the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Cut off the nose to spite the face is quite apt here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I blame the DNC plenty, but I don't blame them solely. There are many, many people that deserve blame. Things aren't black and white, they're blurred lines of grey. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) If the voters say they're black and white it doesn't matter. The politicians need to play ball, not the other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* Or we just need to guillotine the politicians. I'm sick of playing a game to cater to them, they need to cater to us. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago If you're thinking 'bout playing ball it don't matter if they're black or white, he hee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Eh, enjoy your ended country and your genocide anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So youd rather the candidate whod worsen the genocide and do one here? Great logic that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did I just say? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for answering the question, excuse me if your position doesnt make a lick of sense. I would think harm reduction is a worthwhile goal if Gaza is such a travesty, but I guess nuking the whole place would be better apparently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago You'd think so right? But the Democrats don't agree. permalink fedilink source parent [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] timewarp@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago No, it is your own ignorance as why you lost and while you'll lose again in 4 years unless you sort yourself out and observe what happened. We tried telling you... and it was always, "c'mon just support the genocide, it'll be worse if you don't." Then it drifted to... "Kamala and Joe don't help fund genocide, it is the Republicans that make them do it. Kamala is trying to protect the Palestinians from being mass murdered." permalink fedilink source parent [+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What response? I've never seen such a long comment with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ...that's long to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unyons@feddit.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) She would've lost a ton of campaign funding if she did. It's not that simple. Millionaire/billionaire interests also have a huge influence on the democratic party. If you want to blame someone, blame the ultra-rich. They are the ones that have eroded democracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or, i dunno, maybe the Republicans for going full fucking fascism? It's always "Kamala this" or "DNC that" but it's the REPUBLICANS THAT ARE THE FUCKING NAZIS. How is Kamala more responsible for Trump than Mitch McConnell..? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] unyons@feddit.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imo she's not. But the Republican party is just a more blatant tool of the ultra-rich. They are the real enemy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No arguments from me. Wasn't calling you out personally, just that rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -32 points 2 years ago (4 children) Well actually, folks tried to tell Harris stop supporting genocide or it's Trump. You don't blame voters, you blame the individual politician for not listening to the. Kamala is single handedly responsible for all of just as Hillary was. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) No. You blame the voters for taking fascism over an imperfect candidate. If you didnt vote for Harris you are to blame and deserve everything that is going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) False. You blame Democrats for choosing it. You're thinking about it the way THEY want you to think about it. Divisively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Forbo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Blame the fucked electoral system that is completely flawed from a game theory perspective. Doesn't matter the candidates, their positions, or which election cycle it is, the thing is buggy and broken as shit, and we've never bothered patching it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) I absolutely blame some voters. Especially the ones who refused to vote for a female leader even though they didn't like Trump. Especially the ones who refused to vote at all because neither candidate was "perfect". I can slice it many ways, but none of those ways are, "Kamala is single handedly responsible". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) When enough voters say end the genocide or bust, don't be surprised when you bust after announcing continued support for genocide. Politicians need to learn to listen to voters. Do not blame voters for this trump presidentency, blame the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Cut off the nose to spite the face is quite apt here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I blame the DNC plenty, but I don't blame them solely. There are many, many people that deserve blame. Things aren't black and white, they're blurred lines of grey. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) If the voters say they're black and white it doesn't matter. The politicians need to play ball, not the other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* Or we just need to guillotine the politicians. I'm sick of playing a game to cater to them, they need to cater to us. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago If you're thinking 'bout playing ball it don't matter if they're black or white, he hee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Eh, enjoy your ended country and your genocide anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So youd rather the candidate whod worsen the genocide and do one here? Great logic that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did I just say? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for answering the question, excuse me if your position doesnt make a lick of sense. I would think harm reduction is a worthwhile goal if Gaza is such a travesty, but I guess nuking the whole place would be better apparently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago You'd think so right? But the Democrats don't agree. permalink fedilink source parent [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] timewarp@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago No, it is your own ignorance as why you lost and while you'll lose again in 4 years unless you sort yourself out and observe what happened. We tried telling you... and it was always, "c'mon just support the genocide, it'll be worse if you don't." Then it drifted to... "Kamala and Joe don't help fund genocide, it is the Republicans that make them do it. Kamala is trying to protect the Palestinians from being mass murdered." permalink fedilink source parent [+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What response? I've never seen such a long comment with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ...that's long to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unyons@feddit.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) She would've lost a ton of campaign funding if she did. It's not that simple. Millionaire/billionaire interests also have a huge influence on the democratic party. If you want to blame someone, blame the ultra-rich. They are the ones that have eroded democracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or, i dunno, maybe the Republicans for going full fucking fascism? It's always "Kamala this" or "DNC that" but it's the REPUBLICANS THAT ARE THE FUCKING NAZIS. How is Kamala more responsible for Trump than Mitch McConnell..? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] unyons@feddit.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imo she's not. But the Republican party is just a more blatant tool of the ultra-rich. They are the real enemy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No arguments from me. Wasn't calling you out personally, just that rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) No. You blame the voters for taking fascism over an imperfect candidate. If you didnt vote for Harris you are to blame and deserve everything that is going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) False. You blame Democrats for choosing it. You're thinking about it the way THEY want you to think about it. Divisively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Forbo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Blame the fucked electoral system that is completely flawed from a game theory perspective. Doesn't matter the candidates, their positions, or which election cycle it is, the thing is buggy and broken as shit, and we've never bothered patching it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) False. You blame Democrats for choosing it. You're thinking about it the way THEY want you to think about it. Divisively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Forbo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Blame the fucked electoral system that is completely flawed from a game theory perspective. Doesn't matter the candidates, their positions, or which election cycle it is, the thing is buggy and broken as shit, and we've never bothered patching it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Forbo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Blame the fucked electoral system that is completely flawed from a game theory perspective. Doesn't matter the candidates, their positions, or which election cycle it is, the thing is buggy and broken as shit, and we've never bothered patching it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) I absolutely blame some voters. Especially the ones who refused to vote for a female leader even though they didn't like Trump. Especially the ones who refused to vote at all because neither candidate was "perfect". I can slice it many ways, but none of those ways are, "Kamala is single handedly responsible". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) When enough voters say end the genocide or bust, don't be surprised when you bust after announcing continued support for genocide. Politicians need to learn to listen to voters. Do not blame voters for this trump presidentency, blame the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Cut off the nose to spite the face is quite apt here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I blame the DNC plenty, but I don't blame them solely. There are many, many people that deserve blame. Things aren't black and white, they're blurred lines of grey. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) If the voters say they're black and white it doesn't matter. The politicians need to play ball, not the other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* Or we just need to guillotine the politicians. I'm sick of playing a game to cater to them, they need to cater to us. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago If you're thinking 'bout playing ball it don't matter if they're black or white, he hee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Eh, enjoy your ended country and your genocide anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So youd rather the candidate whod worsen the genocide and do one here? Great logic that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did I just say? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for answering the question, excuse me if your position doesnt make a lick of sense. I would think harm reduction is a worthwhile goal if Gaza is such a travesty, but I guess nuking the whole place would be better apparently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago You'd think so right? But the Democrats don't agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) When enough voters say end the genocide or bust, don't be surprised when you bust after announcing continued support for genocide. Politicians need to learn to listen to voters. Do not blame voters for this trump presidentency, blame the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Cut off the nose to spite the face is quite apt here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I blame the DNC plenty, but I don't blame them solely. There are many, many people that deserve blame. Things aren't black and white, they're blurred lines of grey. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) If the voters say they're black and white it doesn't matter. The politicians need to play ball, not the other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* Or we just need to guillotine the politicians. I'm sick of playing a game to cater to them, they need to cater to us. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago If you're thinking 'bout playing ball it don't matter if they're black or white, he hee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Eh, enjoy your ended country and your genocide anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So youd rather the candidate whod worsen the genocide and do one here? Great logic that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did I just say? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for answering the question, excuse me if your position doesnt make a lick of sense. I would think harm reduction is a worthwhile goal if Gaza is such a travesty, but I guess nuking the whole place would be better apparently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago You'd think so right? But the Democrats don't agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Cut off the nose to spite the face is quite apt here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I blame the DNC plenty, but I don't blame them solely. There are many, many people that deserve blame. Things aren't black and white, they're blurred lines of grey. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) If the voters say they're black and white it doesn't matter. The politicians need to play ball, not the other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* Or we just need to guillotine the politicians. I'm sick of playing a game to cater to them, they need to cater to us. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago If you're thinking 'bout playing ball it don't matter if they're black or white, he hee. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) If the voters say they're black and white it doesn't matter. The politicians need to play ball, not the other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* Or we just need to guillotine the politicians. I'm sick of playing a game to cater to them, they need to cater to us. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago If you're thinking 'bout playing ball it don't matter if they're black or white, he hee. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* Or we just need to guillotine the politicians. I'm sick of playing a game to cater to them, they need to cater to us. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago If you're thinking 'bout playing ball it don't matter if they're black or white, he hee. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Eh, enjoy your ended country and your genocide anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So youd rather the candidate whod worsen the genocide and do one here? Great logic that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did I just say? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for answering the question, excuse me if your position doesnt make a lick of sense. I would think harm reduction is a worthwhile goal if Gaza is such a travesty, but I guess nuking the whole place would be better apparently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago You'd think so right? But the Democrats don't agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did I just say? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for answering the question, excuse me if your position doesnt make a lick of sense. I would think harm reduction is a worthwhile goal if Gaza is such a travesty, but I guess nuking the whole place would be better apparently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago You'd think so right? But the Democrats don't agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for answering the question, excuse me if your position doesnt make a lick of sense. I would think harm reduction is a worthwhile goal if Gaza is such a travesty, but I guess nuking the whole place would be better apparently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago You'd think so right? But the Democrats don't agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago You'd think so right? But the Democrats don't agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] timewarp@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago No, it is your own ignorance as why you lost and while you'll lose again in 4 years unless you sort yourself out and observe what happened. We tried telling you... and it was always, "c'mon just support the genocide, it'll be worse if you don't." Then it drifted to... "Kamala and Joe don't help fund genocide, it is the Republicans that make them do it. Kamala is trying to protect the Palestinians from being mass murdered." permalink fedilink source parent [+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What response? I've never seen such a long comment with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ...that's long to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago No, it is your own ignorance as why you lost and while you'll lose again in 4 years unless you sort yourself out and observe what happened. We tried telling you... and it was always, "c'mon just support the genocide, it'll be worse if you don't." Then it drifted to... "Kamala and Joe don't help fund genocide, it is the Republicans that make them do it. Kamala is trying to protect the Palestinians from being mass murdered." permalink fedilink source parent
[+] curiousaur@reddthat.com -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What response? I've never seen such a long comment with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ...that's long to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ...that's long to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago with zero actual content. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unyons@feddit.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) She would've lost a ton of campaign funding if she did. It's not that simple. Millionaire/billionaire interests also have a huge influence on the democratic party. If you want to blame someone, blame the ultra-rich. They are the ones that have eroded democracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or, i dunno, maybe the Republicans for going full fucking fascism? It's always "Kamala this" or "DNC that" but it's the REPUBLICANS THAT ARE THE FUCKING NAZIS. How is Kamala more responsible for Trump than Mitch McConnell..? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] unyons@feddit.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imo she's not. But the Republican party is just a more blatant tool of the ultra-rich. They are the real enemy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No arguments from me. Wasn't calling you out personally, just that rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or, i dunno, maybe the Republicans for going full fucking fascism? It's always "Kamala this" or "DNC that" but it's the REPUBLICANS THAT ARE THE FUCKING NAZIS. How is Kamala more responsible for Trump than Mitch McConnell..? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] unyons@feddit.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imo she's not. But the Republican party is just a more blatant tool of the ultra-rich. They are the real enemy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No arguments from me. Wasn't calling you out personally, just that rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unyons@feddit.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imo she's not. But the Republican party is just a more blatant tool of the ultra-rich. They are the real enemy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No arguments from me. Wasn't calling you out personally, just that rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No arguments from me. Wasn't calling you out personally, just that rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) The NAZIs made Germany a slave labor nation-state. That is what is happening here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago People know all about the concentration camps, but the amount of slave labor used in Nazi Germany was massive. In addition to working in factories they literally brought slaves from the Eastern Front to work in German households as maids, and dressed it up like they were happy to be there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago People know all about the concentration camps, but the amount of slave labor used in Nazi Germany was massive. In addition to working in factories they literally brought slaves from the Eastern Front to work in German households as maids, and dressed it up like they were happy to be there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago It's a pretext. And can expand to anyone the state doesn't want around. Deportation doesn't have to be immediate, you could end up in a cage indefinitely. Portland Oregon was a sneak preview of what Trump will do (Sending federal resources where they are explicitly not wanted, and kidnapping citizens) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Well there's this handy color wheel... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jg1i@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/us/politics/denaturalization-immigrants-justice-department.html Looks like they're gonna strip citizenship from "terrorists, war criminals, sex offenders and other fraudsters who illegally obtained naturalization" Whatever "fraudsters" means... Made a mistake on the citizen application? FRAUDSTER! DEPORTED! Do all of your documents have exactly the same name, middle name, and spelling? No?? IDENTITY THIEF! DEPORTED! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago Let's see how much talent they lose with that... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago Let's see how much talent they lose with that... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago The incoming Trump administration doesn't even know who they are planning to deport. The criteria right now could be literally anything from "these specific known individuals who are illegal aliens and also criminals" to "anyone Trump or ICE doesn't like, including legal citizens who are political dissidents". If there was ever a time to own a gun in America, now is that time. Protect yourselves, people. The no-knock raids are just around the corner. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They start with a convenient group (immigrants, legal or not), and will proceed from there. Ask your history teacher about what happened in Germany after 1933, just replace the Jews with PoCs. permalink fedilink source parent