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[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Bronze Age 😋 #Ackchyually. Root narratives of Judaism and so the Abrahamic tradition from roughly 2000-1200 BCE Ignore me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Do you have a source for that? I would think the oldest passages of the old testament go back to the 900s at best. That's why the oldest historical figure the bible has is Pharaoh Shoshank. I'd be surprised to see if anything from before the Bronze Age Collapse made it in (besides being vaguely Semetic). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wick@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yea I think you're more right, Judaism didn't kick off until the early iron age, and changed over time. But also the roots in late bronze age semetic culture are, if not significant, at least relevant depending on the conversation. Source: theologians dunking on evangelicals on YouTube, and Wikipedia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That makes sense. I also hear that the laws of the Old Testament take considerable amount of inspiration from the Laws of Hammurabi; which was developed earlier in the Bronze Age. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right. Keref Hinnom is 600BCE, so a wee bit earlier than the actual reference to ol’ King Shawshank redemption. But there’s oral tradition _probably_ running as early as 1200BCE. - I was talking Abrahamic tradition (as per the dude I was replying to, so not explicitly Christianity… in which case you’re completely correct) https://dokumen.pub/the-abrahamic-religions-a-very-short-introduction-very-short-introductions-627-1stnbsped-9780190654368-0190654341-9780190654344.html - Cohen, Charles L., 'The Jewish matrix (1200 bce–70 ce)', The Abrahamic Religions: A Very Short Introduction” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago probably running as early as 1200BCE I could agree there was something "related" by 1200BCE at the EARLIEST. After all, Judahites, Edomites, and Qederites do not even show up till 900 BC; a few hundred years after the Amorite civilization begins its downward spiral (where some of their last traces are seen in the mixed ethnic group of Palmyra which has elements of Amorites, Arameans, and Arabs mixed together -- even though they are virtually identical cultures). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Do you have a source for that? I would think the oldest passages of the old testament go back to the 900s at best. That's why the oldest historical figure the bible has is Pharaoh Shoshank. I'd be surprised to see if anything from before the Bronze Age Collapse made it in (besides being vaguely Semetic). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wick@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yea I think you're more right, Judaism didn't kick off until the early iron age, and changed over time. But also the roots in late bronze age semetic culture are, if not significant, at least relevant depending on the conversation. Source: theologians dunking on evangelicals on YouTube, and Wikipedia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That makes sense. I also hear that the laws of the Old Testament take considerable amount of inspiration from the Laws of Hammurabi; which was developed earlier in the Bronze Age. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right. Keref Hinnom is 600BCE, so a wee bit earlier than the actual reference to ol’ King Shawshank redemption. But there’s oral tradition _probably_ running as early as 1200BCE. - I was talking Abrahamic tradition (as per the dude I was replying to, so not explicitly Christianity… in which case you’re completely correct) https://dokumen.pub/the-abrahamic-religions-a-very-short-introduction-very-short-introductions-627-1stnbsped-9780190654368-0190654341-9780190654344.html - Cohen, Charles L., 'The Jewish matrix (1200 bce–70 ce)', The Abrahamic Religions: A Very Short Introduction” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago probably running as early as 1200BCE I could agree there was something "related" by 1200BCE at the EARLIEST. After all, Judahites, Edomites, and Qederites do not even show up till 900 BC; a few hundred years after the Amorite civilization begins its downward spiral (where some of their last traces are seen in the mixed ethnic group of Palmyra which has elements of Amorites, Arameans, and Arabs mixed together -- even though they are virtually identical cultures). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wick@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yea I think you're more right, Judaism didn't kick off until the early iron age, and changed over time. But also the roots in late bronze age semetic culture are, if not significant, at least relevant depending on the conversation. Source: theologians dunking on evangelicals on YouTube, and Wikipedia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That makes sense. I also hear that the laws of the Old Testament take considerable amount of inspiration from the Laws of Hammurabi; which was developed earlier in the Bronze Age. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That makes sense. I also hear that the laws of the Old Testament take considerable amount of inspiration from the Laws of Hammurabi; which was developed earlier in the Bronze Age. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right. Keref Hinnom is 600BCE, so a wee bit earlier than the actual reference to ol’ King Shawshank redemption. But there’s oral tradition _probably_ running as early as 1200BCE. - I was talking Abrahamic tradition (as per the dude I was replying to, so not explicitly Christianity… in which case you’re completely correct) https://dokumen.pub/the-abrahamic-religions-a-very-short-introduction-very-short-introductions-627-1stnbsped-9780190654368-0190654341-9780190654344.html - Cohen, Charles L., 'The Jewish matrix (1200 bce–70 ce)', The Abrahamic Religions: A Very Short Introduction” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago probably running as early as 1200BCE I could agree there was something "related" by 1200BCE at the EARLIEST. After all, Judahites, Edomites, and Qederites do not even show up till 900 BC; a few hundred years after the Amorite civilization begins its downward spiral (where some of their last traces are seen in the mixed ethnic group of Palmyra which has elements of Amorites, Arameans, and Arabs mixed together -- even though they are virtually identical cultures). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago probably running as early as 1200BCE I could agree there was something "related" by 1200BCE at the EARLIEST. After all, Judahites, Edomites, and Qederites do not even show up till 900 BC; a few hundred years after the Amorite civilization begins its downward spiral (where some of their last traces are seen in the mixed ethnic group of Palmyra which has elements of Amorites, Arameans, and Arabs mixed together -- even though they are virtually identical cultures). permalink fedilink source parent