▲ 1025 ▼ Corporations are not your Friends: A Story in Two Parts (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by renzev@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world 153 comments fedilink hide all child comments Screenshot sources: https://lemmy.world/post/21863843?scrollToComments=true https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/4997189
[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I'm continuing advocating for premium exclusively because it pays creators more, and more consistently. I never go on the internet without all the adblocks possible, the sight of an add makes me irrationally angry. I'm still paying for premium permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) most creators have patreons or sell merch. youtube doesn't get a cut from that so you can support more directly! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rocketpoweredredneck@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) If i paid money to every the patreon of every content creator that I want to support, it'd be a lot more money than youtube premium. Better believe ill be cancelling premium the very first ad I see though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mojave@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) You throwing $12 a month or whatever towards patreons is strictly better than throwing $12 a month towards premium if what you care about is the creators getting paid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They’re lying to themselves. Probably some small part of them cares about supporting creators, but it’s not their main motivation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I used to be in the same boat as OP, but since trying to degoogle I (obvioisly) stopped buying Premium and instead buy into Patreon of select creators. If there was some sort of degoogled Youtube Premium that would go towards support of people I watch, I'd much rather opt for that (obviously a very theoretical proposition) - I can support only so many via Patreon, even if all would have a 1$ tier. Of course, when buying Premium part of my motivation was my comfort. It was comfortable support via Premium or uncomfortable support via ads. Patreon is fine but you can't feasibly pay for one for every creator who's video you watched permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You've just invented something I would use. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You are so convinced about my motivations, I hust have to assume it's a projection permalink fedilink source parent [–] olsplasher@feddit.org 11 points 2 years ago Doesn't Patreon then take a cut? What's the difference? (Fee % might, haven't checked to be fair) I'm supporting one creator via Patreon and got merch from another one (and have tried channel memberships), however this doesn't really scale. merch is only really great when one needs whatever is offered anyways Patreon is nice, but requires explicit effort and regular payments for each channel So from that perspective, having creators being payed more per-view is actually a nice, convenient effect and will cover channels that might otherwise get nothing. I'd like to have something like this for the general internet - pay some monthly fee, no more ads and websites, news sites etc all get some share (that is ultimatively more than what the ads would've given them in the first place). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) most creators have patreons or sell merch. youtube doesn't get a cut from that so you can support more directly! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rocketpoweredredneck@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) If i paid money to every the patreon of every content creator that I want to support, it'd be a lot more money than youtube premium. Better believe ill be cancelling premium the very first ad I see though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mojave@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) You throwing $12 a month or whatever towards patreons is strictly better than throwing $12 a month towards premium if what you care about is the creators getting paid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They’re lying to themselves. Probably some small part of them cares about supporting creators, but it’s not their main motivation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I used to be in the same boat as OP, but since trying to degoogle I (obvioisly) stopped buying Premium and instead buy into Patreon of select creators. If there was some sort of degoogled Youtube Premium that would go towards support of people I watch, I'd much rather opt for that (obviously a very theoretical proposition) - I can support only so many via Patreon, even if all would have a 1$ tier. Of course, when buying Premium part of my motivation was my comfort. It was comfortable support via Premium or uncomfortable support via ads. Patreon is fine but you can't feasibly pay for one for every creator who's video you watched permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You've just invented something I would use. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You are so convinced about my motivations, I hust have to assume it's a projection permalink fedilink source parent [–] olsplasher@feddit.org 11 points 2 years ago Doesn't Patreon then take a cut? What's the difference? (Fee % might, haven't checked to be fair) I'm supporting one creator via Patreon and got merch from another one (and have tried channel memberships), however this doesn't really scale. merch is only really great when one needs whatever is offered anyways Patreon is nice, but requires explicit effort and regular payments for each channel So from that perspective, having creators being payed more per-view is actually a nice, convenient effect and will cover channels that might otherwise get nothing. I'd like to have something like this for the general internet - pay some monthly fee, no more ads and websites, news sites etc all get some share (that is ultimatively more than what the ads would've given them in the first place). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rocketpoweredredneck@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) If i paid money to every the patreon of every content creator that I want to support, it'd be a lot more money than youtube premium. Better believe ill be cancelling premium the very first ad I see though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mojave@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) You throwing $12 a month or whatever towards patreons is strictly better than throwing $12 a month towards premium if what you care about is the creators getting paid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They’re lying to themselves. Probably some small part of them cares about supporting creators, but it’s not their main motivation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I used to be in the same boat as OP, but since trying to degoogle I (obvioisly) stopped buying Premium and instead buy into Patreon of select creators. If there was some sort of degoogled Youtube Premium that would go towards support of people I watch, I'd much rather opt for that (obviously a very theoretical proposition) - I can support only so many via Patreon, even if all would have a 1$ tier. Of course, when buying Premium part of my motivation was my comfort. It was comfortable support via Premium or uncomfortable support via ads. Patreon is fine but you can't feasibly pay for one for every creator who's video you watched permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You've just invented something I would use. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You are so convinced about my motivations, I hust have to assume it's a projection permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mojave@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) You throwing $12 a month or whatever towards patreons is strictly better than throwing $12 a month towards premium if what you care about is the creators getting paid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They’re lying to themselves. Probably some small part of them cares about supporting creators, but it’s not their main motivation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I used to be in the same boat as OP, but since trying to degoogle I (obvioisly) stopped buying Premium and instead buy into Patreon of select creators. If there was some sort of degoogled Youtube Premium that would go towards support of people I watch, I'd much rather opt for that (obviously a very theoretical proposition) - I can support only so many via Patreon, even if all would have a 1$ tier. Of course, when buying Premium part of my motivation was my comfort. It was comfortable support via Premium or uncomfortable support via ads. Patreon is fine but you can't feasibly pay for one for every creator who's video you watched permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You've just invented something I would use. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You are so convinced about my motivations, I hust have to assume it's a projection permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They’re lying to themselves. Probably some small part of them cares about supporting creators, but it’s not their main motivation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I used to be in the same boat as OP, but since trying to degoogle I (obvioisly) stopped buying Premium and instead buy into Patreon of select creators. If there was some sort of degoogled Youtube Premium that would go towards support of people I watch, I'd much rather opt for that (obviously a very theoretical proposition) - I can support only so many via Patreon, even if all would have a 1$ tier. Of course, when buying Premium part of my motivation was my comfort. It was comfortable support via Premium or uncomfortable support via ads. Patreon is fine but you can't feasibly pay for one for every creator who's video you watched permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You've just invented something I would use. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You are so convinced about my motivations, I hust have to assume it's a projection permalink fedilink source parent
[–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I used to be in the same boat as OP, but since trying to degoogle I (obvioisly) stopped buying Premium and instead buy into Patreon of select creators. If there was some sort of degoogled Youtube Premium that would go towards support of people I watch, I'd much rather opt for that (obviously a very theoretical proposition) - I can support only so many via Patreon, even if all would have a 1$ tier. Of course, when buying Premium part of my motivation was my comfort. It was comfortable support via Premium or uncomfortable support via ads. Patreon is fine but you can't feasibly pay for one for every creator who's video you watched permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You've just invented something I would use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You've just invented something I would use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You are so convinced about my motivations, I hust have to assume it's a projection permalink fedilink source parent
[–] olsplasher@feddit.org 11 points 2 years ago Doesn't Patreon then take a cut? What's the difference? (Fee % might, haven't checked to be fair) I'm supporting one creator via Patreon and got merch from another one (and have tried channel memberships), however this doesn't really scale. merch is only really great when one needs whatever is offered anyways Patreon is nice, but requires explicit effort and regular payments for each channel So from that perspective, having creators being payed more per-view is actually a nice, convenient effect and will cover channels that might otherwise get nothing. I'd like to have something like this for the general internet - pay some monthly fee, no more ads and websites, news sites etc all get some share (that is ultimatively more than what the ads would've given them in the first place). permalink fedilink source parent
