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I like a good UX (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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Not hating on open source, just let people use what fits their expectations and needs and stop deterring them with gatekeeping :P

UX = user experience

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[–] 45 points 3 years ago (18 children)

Don't forget this is a community built around Open Source software with many refugees who came because proprietary apps were forced on them.

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  • [–] 68 points 3 years ago* (7 children)

    The Lemmy protocol is open source and you're free to use an open source solution. You're free to use sync for Lemmy in much the same way you can run a Spotify client in Linux. One does not destroy the other.

    Tldr if you don't like it, don't use it.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    but shouldn't I go online and complain about it loudly?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    Yeah yeah, but OP made a post about it so I thought I'd add some of the reasoning behind people being that way. I don't care what app people use as long as I can use the one I like.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    You're free to use sync for Lemmy in much the same way you can run a Spotify client in Linux. One does not destroy the other.

    I don't understand these mini-Stallmans and their identical attitudes like this. One Stallman is enough, please develop a personality and realize that things do come in shades of grey.

    I contribute to FOSS projects & I love Linux and have been using it professionally for a couple of decades, but I'm never going to stand up an LDAP server on it when Active Directory exists, the same way I'm never going to use Windows as a Docker host or a network load balancer.

    Use the best tool for the job, don't be a zealot.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    As much as those atrocious combinations give me the shivers, especially docker on Windows, we really should be advocating for the freedom of choice (even if that choice might be the wrong one). People should be free to do what they want, and such freedom should be celebrated.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    literally no one is forgetting about that - And the great thing about Lemmy is that no one will ever be forced to use an app they don't want to use, whether it be closed source or open source.

    What OP is (rightly) complaining about, is the huge amount of holier-than-thou rhetoric that's plastered all over the front page of Lemmy right now giving users shit for wanting to use a closed source app.

    I love FOSS, I'm typing this comment on a linux desktop right this moment (arch, btw) - but sometimes the best tool for a job (by my own completely subjective opinion) is a closed source tool. Using a closed source app to access an open source system isn't a betrayal of that open source system.

    If you personally don't want to use a closed source solution, or if you specifically think that Sync is a bad solution for any number of possible reasons, then you're free to continue using open source solutions, I really don't see why so many people care so much about what apps other people are using, Sync existing doesn't take anything away from open source solutions (except maybe users, but again - you can't force people to use your software)

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    the huge amount of holier-than-thou rhetoric that’s plastered all over the front page of Lemmy right now

    All I'm seeing in the all frontpage is people glorifying Sync while belittling other apps and complaining about those complainers, Like dude, I have the sync community blocked because while I like that it exists, I don't want to be force feed with that content, and now I still am because it's being discussed in other communities.

    What's annoying is the way some people talk about the app, stating that it's the objective best app ever, like zealots. I don't give two flying fucks about the price but I swear that the alleged complaints of FOSS users may be in part because of the attitude of other users.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Please link me a single post other than this one that glorifies sync while belittling FOSS apps (not that this one belittles Foss apps in the slightest) - preferably with more than a dozen upvotes

    Because I posted a screenshot in this thread with five of the top 10 posts on my front page being the exact opposite, and I really don't believe you when you say that you're being spammed with "sync zealots"

    People like Sync, but it's the haters that are being spammy and obnoxious about it, not it's users

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)
    1. This is not a proprietary app (in the first party terms, it's still a 3rd party app)
    • Yes Okay I get it, yes it's proprietary, but I'm saying everyone was gleefully using proprietary 3rd party apps on Reddit, Apollo was proprietary, RIF was proprietary, proprietary was not forced on anyone. 1st party apps were forced on us all.
    1. This is literally one of the apps Reddit killed off
    2. It's literally not being forced on anyone
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  • [–] [S] -2 points 3 years ago

    I have a problem with writing text that doesn't read negative or angry, so a little disclaimer beforehand: it's not :D

    I see your point, I don't tell them to change or not to embrace open source.

    I like open source for various reasons (especially for learning), but not everything I use has to be open source by default.

    I also understand the reasoning behind apps like Sync to remain private (non-paying user btw). If you put so much effort into a project you can go two routes: release it public or keep it closed and try to monetize it. When I use an open source app extensively and it brings value to my workflow or makes my daily tasks easier I'll throw a few bucks their way (or a server license once), but how many really do that? If you release your app publicly with the option to pay or to see ads to, some people could just fork it and re-release it, stripped of both monetization models that were intended as support for the developer. (Again, from the point of view of a developer that wants to see some return for their investment of time.)

    In my point of view we have the benefit of an open platform (unlike reddit). If any dev of a proprietary client fs up, you can change it without repercussions. Unless all instances suddenly decide to restrict API access or make their API pay-to-use all at once, we won't see a shhow like with Reddit.

    Sometimes I want something that works as expected and gives me a pleasant/polished experience when using it.

    Forgive my exaggeration, but I usually don't use my free time to look through the code of every program I want to use, at some point we reach that "I've read the TOS" problem", feels like no one even reads that anymore.

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