▲ 2299 ▼ Foundation vs Dune (media.kbin.social) submitted 3 years ago by downpunxx@kbin.social to c/sciencefiction@lemmy.world 228 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 39 points 3 years ago* (2 children) This idea is oddly fascinating. Now we just need a good sci-fi writer to produce the "missing link". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] swab148@lemm.ee 41 points 3 years ago (1 child) Maybe the robots in Asimov's universe lead to the creation of Erasmus and eventually the Butlerian Jihad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 13 points 3 years ago Yes, that was my idea too :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (6 children) We do. In some of the set in the same universe novels but not written by Asimov there are references to Brain Fever. A disease that virtually 100% of humans get at least once that makes them dumb for life. All advancement in galactic culture comes from the like 1 out of a million people who were immune. That would account for Dune. Dune only makes sense if you assume that everyone is stupid and living in a hazy of drugged religious fantasy. Ffs the main power of their space witches is to use a sexy voice. Which everyone knows about! Just put in earplugs or jerk off prior or get gay guys or use deaf people or get straight women before dealing with one. Thousands of years of eugenics defeated by 30 cents of earplugs. Dune everybody! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 20 points 3 years ago (2 children) The witches go around when everyone is still young and tell them to never buy earplugs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marcos@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago It's a forbidden technology, like computers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) It probably is something that freaken dumb as it is Dune. An entire civilization enslaved and broken so inbred monarchy can play with swords. Leave it to those fucking morons to ban gays and women from the military and not discover how to defeat the sexy voice. Know now that it is the year 18,238 after the great Sunni-Druid Jihad against the water parks. People are enslaved by space-witches that have the power of sexy voice and their halibasters-smegma (ancient swords) are useless. There. I solved Dune. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You mean the book about a bunch of Muslims who take over the galaxy because they learn Karate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Whoa,spoilers man! permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitcrafter@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ffs the main power of their space witches is to use a sexy voice. Which everyone knows about! Just put in earplugs or jerk off prior or get gay guys or use deaf people or get straight women before dealing with one. Not only is there nothing in any the books to even suggest that this is the mechanism by which the Voice works, there is a very prominent scene where the main male character uses the Voice to compel other male characters to do his bidding. (In fact, in the later books a "corrupt" version of the Bene Gesserit shows up that does explicitly use their sexuality as the source of their manipulation power, and the Bene Gesserit find this absolutely abhorrent.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Lord, please deliver us from people with really "clever" hot takes that are horribly reductive and strained through the mesh of whatever synonym for "woke" won't get me downvoted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Can't hear you. I have earbuds I got from the dollar store. You could try explaining it to me again but you might need a thinking-machine to do it with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago After reading your (imo totally idiotic) thoughts about my beloved Dune, I simply wish to never talk to you again. Bye bye! permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Actually even thufir, the mentat aka human computer, didn't know about the voice permalink fedilink source parent [–] biofaust@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's the plot of Idiocracy permalink fedilink source parent [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, no, The Voice isn't sexual... like, at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I agree. Some shrill inbred witch being a space-karen is not sexy. Dune only works if you assume that the characters are idiots in a religious-drug filled haze. Now polish your space-sword we have to go fight the 19th Buddha-Jewish jihad against the Space-mushroom eater people under the rule of Space-Baron Singh of the space house whalefurer. They harvest space-fur from space-whales. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago I think you may have missed my point It isn't sexual at all and it isn't meant to be permalink fedilink source parent
[–] swab148@lemm.ee 41 points 3 years ago (1 child) Maybe the robots in Asimov's universe lead to the creation of Erasmus and eventually the Butlerian Jihad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 13 points 3 years ago Yes, that was my idea too :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 13 points 3 years ago Yes, that was my idea too :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (6 children) We do. In some of the set in the same universe novels but not written by Asimov there are references to Brain Fever. A disease that virtually 100% of humans get at least once that makes them dumb for life. All advancement in galactic culture comes from the like 1 out of a million people who were immune. That would account for Dune. Dune only makes sense if you assume that everyone is stupid and living in a hazy of drugged religious fantasy. Ffs the main power of their space witches is to use a sexy voice. Which everyone knows about! Just put in earplugs or jerk off prior or get gay guys or use deaf people or get straight women before dealing with one. Thousands of years of eugenics defeated by 30 cents of earplugs. Dune everybody! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 20 points 3 years ago (2 children) The witches go around when everyone is still young and tell them to never buy earplugs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marcos@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago It's a forbidden technology, like computers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) It probably is something that freaken dumb as it is Dune. An entire civilization enslaved and broken so inbred monarchy can play with swords. Leave it to those fucking morons to ban gays and women from the military and not discover how to defeat the sexy voice. Know now that it is the year 18,238 after the great Sunni-Druid Jihad against the water parks. People are enslaved by space-witches that have the power of sexy voice and their halibasters-smegma (ancient swords) are useless. There. I solved Dune. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You mean the book about a bunch of Muslims who take over the galaxy because they learn Karate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Whoa,spoilers man! permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitcrafter@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ffs the main power of their space witches is to use a sexy voice. Which everyone knows about! Just put in earplugs or jerk off prior or get gay guys or use deaf people or get straight women before dealing with one. Not only is there nothing in any the books to even suggest that this is the mechanism by which the Voice works, there is a very prominent scene where the main male character uses the Voice to compel other male characters to do his bidding. (In fact, in the later books a "corrupt" version of the Bene Gesserit shows up that does explicitly use their sexuality as the source of their manipulation power, and the Bene Gesserit find this absolutely abhorrent.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Lord, please deliver us from people with really "clever" hot takes that are horribly reductive and strained through the mesh of whatever synonym for "woke" won't get me downvoted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Can't hear you. I have earbuds I got from the dollar store. You could try explaining it to me again but you might need a thinking-machine to do it with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago After reading your (imo totally idiotic) thoughts about my beloved Dune, I simply wish to never talk to you again. Bye bye! permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Actually even thufir, the mentat aka human computer, didn't know about the voice permalink fedilink source parent [–] biofaust@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's the plot of Idiocracy permalink fedilink source parent [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, no, The Voice isn't sexual... like, at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I agree. Some shrill inbred witch being a space-karen is not sexy. Dune only works if you assume that the characters are idiots in a religious-drug filled haze. Now polish your space-sword we have to go fight the 19th Buddha-Jewish jihad against the Space-mushroom eater people under the rule of Space-Baron Singh of the space house whalefurer. They harvest space-fur from space-whales. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago I think you may have missed my point It isn't sexual at all and it isn't meant to be permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 20 points 3 years ago (2 children) The witches go around when everyone is still young and tell them to never buy earplugs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marcos@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago It's a forbidden technology, like computers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) It probably is something that freaken dumb as it is Dune. An entire civilization enslaved and broken so inbred monarchy can play with swords. Leave it to those fucking morons to ban gays and women from the military and not discover how to defeat the sexy voice. Know now that it is the year 18,238 after the great Sunni-Druid Jihad against the water parks. People are enslaved by space-witches that have the power of sexy voice and their halibasters-smegma (ancient swords) are useless. There. I solved Dune. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You mean the book about a bunch of Muslims who take over the galaxy because they learn Karate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Whoa,spoilers man! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marcos@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago It's a forbidden technology, like computers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) It probably is something that freaken dumb as it is Dune. An entire civilization enslaved and broken so inbred monarchy can play with swords. Leave it to those fucking morons to ban gays and women from the military and not discover how to defeat the sexy voice. Know now that it is the year 18,238 after the great Sunni-Druid Jihad against the water parks. People are enslaved by space-witches that have the power of sexy voice and their halibasters-smegma (ancient swords) are useless. There. I solved Dune. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You mean the book about a bunch of Muslims who take over the galaxy because they learn Karate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Whoa,spoilers man! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You mean the book about a bunch of Muslims who take over the galaxy because they learn Karate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Whoa,spoilers man! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Whoa,spoilers man! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitcrafter@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ffs the main power of their space witches is to use a sexy voice. Which everyone knows about! Just put in earplugs or jerk off prior or get gay guys or use deaf people or get straight women before dealing with one. Not only is there nothing in any the books to even suggest that this is the mechanism by which the Voice works, there is a very prominent scene where the main male character uses the Voice to compel other male characters to do his bidding. (In fact, in the later books a "corrupt" version of the Bene Gesserit shows up that does explicitly use their sexuality as the source of their manipulation power, and the Bene Gesserit find this absolutely abhorrent.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Lord, please deliver us from people with really "clever" hot takes that are horribly reductive and strained through the mesh of whatever synonym for "woke" won't get me downvoted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Can't hear you. I have earbuds I got from the dollar store. You could try explaining it to me again but you might need a thinking-machine to do it with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Lord, please deliver us from people with really "clever" hot takes that are horribly reductive and strained through the mesh of whatever synonym for "woke" won't get me downvoted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Can't hear you. I have earbuds I got from the dollar store. You could try explaining it to me again but you might need a thinking-machine to do it with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago After reading your (imo totally idiotic) thoughts about my beloved Dune, I simply wish to never talk to you again. Bye bye! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Actually even thufir, the mentat aka human computer, didn't know about the voice permalink fedilink source parent
[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's the plot of Idiocracy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, no, The Voice isn't sexual... like, at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I agree. Some shrill inbred witch being a space-karen is not sexy. Dune only works if you assume that the characters are idiots in a religious-drug filled haze. Now polish your space-sword we have to go fight the 19th Buddha-Jewish jihad against the Space-mushroom eater people under the rule of Space-Baron Singh of the space house whalefurer. They harvest space-fur from space-whales. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago I think you may have missed my point It isn't sexual at all and it isn't meant to be permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I agree. Some shrill inbred witch being a space-karen is not sexy. Dune only works if you assume that the characters are idiots in a religious-drug filled haze. Now polish your space-sword we have to go fight the 19th Buddha-Jewish jihad against the Space-mushroom eater people under the rule of Space-Baron Singh of the space house whalefurer. They harvest space-fur from space-whales. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago I think you may have missed my point It isn't sexual at all and it isn't meant to be permalink fedilink source parent
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago I think you may have missed my point It isn't sexual at all and it isn't meant to be permalink fedilink source parent