Summary

A 15-year-old boy was sentenced to life in prison for fatally stabbing a stranger, Muhammad Hassam Ali, after a brief conversation in Birmingham city center. The second boy, who stood by, was sentenced to five years in secure accommodation. Ali’s family expressed their grief, describing him as a budding engineer whose life was tragically cut short.

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[–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

I think punishment comes first when it comes to murder though

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Is there any data showing that this is more effective for reducing future violent crime?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Taking a murderer off the streets?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean for other people. Of course we can reduce crime if everyone is imprisoned.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Murderers =/= everyone. What a dumbass argument you’re making.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How does your question take into account the victim's family at all? You may not like it but one of the pillars of justice is seeking a fair and just punishment for the victim and their loved ones. You may not care about the murder victim's family so somebody has to.

    You can't act like a crime is all about the perpetrator and their needs.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    How does the punishment help the family of the victim?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago

    Well what he did was permanent. So unless you can figure out a way to undo it, I think the punishment should fit the crime. Putting him back out on the streets doesn't help the family either so it's kind of a moot point.

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