▲ 879 ▼ It’s not alarmist: A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy (www.vox.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 219 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (4 children) And if he loses, so will the next Republican. And the next one. And the next one. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) If he loses, I think we see the fractures in the republican party really start to cascade even more than they have since the last election. It'll still be a stewpot of regressive, reactionary, fascist fellating bullshit, but their goose stepping will be out of sync. Meanwhile, a collapse of the Republican part opens the door for a likewise restructuring of the Democratic party, which has for decades now been a big tent party for people who aren't braindead, but is otherwise pretty ideideologically disparate. And before you wah wah wah FPTP, keep in mind that all RCV initiatives in the US have arisen out of Democratic party affiliated groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago That didn't happen last time. Instead, everyone tried to become the new Trump and take up the mantle. They failed because the real Trump was still running, but without him they'll be able to adapt. Although they'll struggle to draw in voters the way Trump does. People like Trump because he's an "outsider". A new outsider can totally emerge to take up the mantle once Trump is not sucking all the oxygen out of the room. Or who knows. Maybe once Trump is defeated everything will go back to normal. 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh here campaigning for Repubs all the way to the end, huh? "Both sides are colluding, Dems don't reverse Repub policies! Therefore give up and allow as many Repub policies as we can." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How did you read any of that from my comment? I'm just pointing out that fascism doesn't go away just because Trump is gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've seen a lot of comments about the Dems deliberately colluding with Repubs to continue deeper into fascism and assumed yours was one of those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Oh, well I just think Republicans are going to continue being fascists even when Trump is gone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Which is why the Republican Party needs to be disbanded permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago It's more like a cult and/or terrorist organization at this point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago Correct. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago So that the US becomes a one party state? Sounds oddly similar to a certain way of ruling that was used by a certain German leader during WWII. And y'all have the nerve to call Trump a fascist. The irony is through the roof. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Trump is going to win this election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, or steal it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Count on comrade Kamala for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) If he loses, I think we see the fractures in the republican party really start to cascade even more than they have since the last election. It'll still be a stewpot of regressive, reactionary, fascist fellating bullshit, but their goose stepping will be out of sync. Meanwhile, a collapse of the Republican part opens the door for a likewise restructuring of the Democratic party, which has for decades now been a big tent party for people who aren't braindead, but is otherwise pretty ideideologically disparate. And before you wah wah wah FPTP, keep in mind that all RCV initiatives in the US have arisen out of Democratic party affiliated groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago That didn't happen last time. Instead, everyone tried to become the new Trump and take up the mantle. They failed because the real Trump was still running, but without him they'll be able to adapt. Although they'll struggle to draw in voters the way Trump does. People like Trump because he's an "outsider". A new outsider can totally emerge to take up the mantle once Trump is not sucking all the oxygen out of the room. Or who knows. Maybe once Trump is defeated everything will go back to normal. 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago That didn't happen last time. Instead, everyone tried to become the new Trump and take up the mantle. They failed because the real Trump was still running, but without him they'll be able to adapt. Although they'll struggle to draw in voters the way Trump does. People like Trump because he's an "outsider". A new outsider can totally emerge to take up the mantle once Trump is not sucking all the oxygen out of the room. Or who knows. Maybe once Trump is defeated everything will go back to normal. 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh here campaigning for Repubs all the way to the end, huh? "Both sides are colluding, Dems don't reverse Repub policies! Therefore give up and allow as many Repub policies as we can." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How did you read any of that from my comment? I'm just pointing out that fascism doesn't go away just because Trump is gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've seen a lot of comments about the Dems deliberately colluding with Repubs to continue deeper into fascism and assumed yours was one of those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Oh, well I just think Republicans are going to continue being fascists even when Trump is gone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How did you read any of that from my comment? I'm just pointing out that fascism doesn't go away just because Trump is gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've seen a lot of comments about the Dems deliberately colluding with Repubs to continue deeper into fascism and assumed yours was one of those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Oh, well I just think Republicans are going to continue being fascists even when Trump is gone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've seen a lot of comments about the Dems deliberately colluding with Repubs to continue deeper into fascism and assumed yours was one of those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Oh, well I just think Republicans are going to continue being fascists even when Trump is gone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Oh, well I just think Republicans are going to continue being fascists even when Trump is gone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Which is why the Republican Party needs to be disbanded permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago It's more like a cult and/or terrorist organization at this point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago Correct. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago So that the US becomes a one party state? Sounds oddly similar to a certain way of ruling that was used by a certain German leader during WWII. And y'all have the nerve to call Trump a fascist. The irony is through the roof. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago It's more like a cult and/or terrorist organization at this point. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago So that the US becomes a one party state? Sounds oddly similar to a certain way of ruling that was used by a certain German leader during WWII. And y'all have the nerve to call Trump a fascist. The irony is through the roof. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Trump is going to win this election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, or steal it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Count on comrade Kamala for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, or steal it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Count on comrade Kamala for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Count on comrade Kamala for that. permalink fedilink source parent