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I'm done with NextCloud (ymmel.nl)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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Just had NextCloud denying my credentials (not for the first time). I know they weren't wrong because I'm using a password manager. Logs didn't say much. Was about to reinstall (again, not the first time nextcloud went bonkers on me) before I tried a docker compose down && docker compose up. Lo and behold after a restart the credentials worked again.

This stuff is just way too flaky for something so important.

Is OwnCloud good again? My main usecase is saving photos but I don't want them locked away in a database so SeaFile is out.

Edit: I'm going to take the time to reply to you all, bit busy with work and family suddenly. But a little update - I've quickly setup Immich and fired up the CLI to import my library. AFAIK the files are still stored on disk somewhere but metadata is in a database. I didn't realize this before, knowing that I think my mind is made up and Immich is the best solution. Thanks everyone!

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[–] 16 points 3 years ago (4 children)

I haven't got this kind of issue with nextcloud, I'm pretty sure you can reset your password using occ via cli

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I'm using the LSIO docker image and I could not locate the occ file to fire off the reset - but even then - I didn't need to reset my password anyway..

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    That's your problem, just there: you deployed a one size fits all blackbox of a container that, by definition, on top of pulling all the inefficiencies and redundancies of docker, isn't tuned for your specific hardware and operational needs. I get the appeal of containers, but if you want to self-host responsibly, you've got to be in control of what's running and how.

    Sorry if this sounds harsh.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I honestly don't see how my issues are related to docker. Sure the occ app was missing (or I just couldn't find it, but the conclusion was that I didn't even need it)

    I'm running Linux so there's not really any inefficiencies in regards to resources AFAIK - it's just namespaces and cgroups.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I could give you plenty of reasons why you would be worse-off deploying from docker without deep understanding of what's going on, but to only list a few out of the obvious pile:

    • your container ships a bunch of things that you do not need and that take-up significant server resources. Not just nextcloud apps that you will never need but get loaded nonetheless, but also things like redis and a full-fledged collabora server that only make sense in a large-scale instances.

    • your container isn't tuned for your server because whoever made the container had no way to know that in advance. For instance, It might be that your php-fpm forks beyond your multithreading or IO capabilities, that your application cache isn't adequate wrt. your system's RAM memory, etc

    • your containers duplicate functionalities from each other and from the operating system. You don't need more than one http server, database, application process manager, interpreter, … but they add-up nonetheless and reduce the pool of available resources from the rest of the system and containers.

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