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Whoops! Google, Copilot, Perplexity push scientific racism in search results (pivot-to-ai.com)
submitted 2 years ago by [M] to c/techtakes@awful.systems
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[–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Between this high-profile disaster and character.ai's suicide lawsuit (which I've talked about here), it feels more and more and more like the current system's gonna end up getting torn to shreds once this bubble bursts.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I thought "character.ai's suicide lawsuit" was your way of describing a stupid lawsuit that is suicidal to the company, but this is so much fucking darker, god.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Yeah.

    Looking back at my quick-and-dirty thoughts about the suit, I feel like I handled it in a pretty detached way, focusing very little on the severe human cost that kicked off the suit and more on what it could entail for AI at large.

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  • [+] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm relatively confident that AI represents the formalization of the perspective adhered to by those who run the economy.

    It does provide context for why so many are throwing so much money at it, when experts know they're not going to get a monetary return.

    It could be that they're just genuinely huge suckers. But I'm inclined to wonder if there's more sinister motives in play.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I wish I could agree, but we're all AI fodder. AI companies will spend us and anyone who disagrees can get fucked because money. The ownership class is going to milk this for every damn cent until they get their returns, and if that means more murder-suicides in that pursuit, well then buckle up.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The "money" the AI companies have are basically just promises from backers. If they cannot deliver their promises (which boil down to basically knowledge industries replacing around 20% of their workforce with LLMs) then that imaginary money dries up. Remember, there are real bills in the form of power and cooling and hardware that have to be paid all the time just to keep running in place.

    A lawsuit that convinces the public and investors that LLMs are a dead end will kill most LLM companies.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    A lawsuit that convinces the public and investors that LLMs are a dead end will kill most LLM companies.

    To engage in some shameless self-promo, it'll probably destroy the concept of AI - the bubble's made "AI" synonymous with "LLMs and slop generators" in the public eye, so if LLMs get declared a dead end, AI as a whole will probably be written off alongside it.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, this is the "emperor has no clothes" reality that I keep bringing up with my friends who are still invested in the bubble (emotionally if not financially). The genAI/LLM tech stack defies the entire decades-long cost curve and investment thesis for computer technology. Up through the smartphone era, you bought in because you could get more utility for lower cost. What's being pushed now is higher-cost for dubious utility gains; it's just that some vendors are eating losses to hide the costs. (And of course the externalities get swept under the rug.)

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