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Should we as hexbear continue to associate with Chapotraphouse? (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
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boring as fuck jokes, liberal cringe opinions, 9 bad takes out of 10, and more galore. Should hexbear really keep associating itself with Chapo, it really seems that hexbear has outgrown it in general.

edit: by associating i mean using things like chapotraphouse com or askchapo or chapochat. maybe we've grown beyond it, maybe its a neat part of site culture and a nod to its roots while not connected to the cringe stuff.

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[–] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

What they talk about the most is Israel and they do a pretty good job of that. I never understood why people are so revolted by it other than Felix being gross. There's basically no criticism you could make of their politics that you couldn't make of Citations Needed, e.g. if you're a Dengist you probably don't like how they basically never remark on China, but I've heard remarks occasionally from CTH and none from CN

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    I seem to recall cn would ban you for asking about a China episode.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    If it's true, I support that approach

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Why? China is covered in the most repulsive way in us media. Seems like the perfect topic for CN to cover

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Because they have a perfectly fine position in the pipeline by promoting a framework for discrediting western media already; Dying in the hill of "China isn't doing genocide" or whatever is a rhetorical tact that would turn many people away. Let other people, especially those who actually have some familiarity with China and its media, handle defending China more competently.

    "What about Israel/Palestine, then?"

    There are definitely some rabid zionists, but generally among their audience Palestine is already strongly supported, which cannot be said of China (by which I mean that it's split, not negative). Virtually no one who is declaring them Hamas for their Israel coverage is that interested in what else they have to say anyway.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I mean they could do light push backs but instead its nothing. The China US media discourse is some of the most dangerous and insidious. To the point where it seems most usians will believe anything the state department will say about them. Most anarchists I know, say and believe the most vile things about China NK and Russia but are critical of most other media lines. Coincidentally, CN has almost nothing to say about the discourse regarding the 3.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    That your friends are critical of most other media lines is most likely due to the culture of US media criticism that CN is trying to contribute to. It sounds to me more like an indication that someone else should pick up the torch and handle those issues specifically.

    If they took on Russia, especially, they would most likely get banned from most platforms and have their patreon taken down before too long. You've seen that happen before with other programs. As the Cold War escalates, that will probably apply to China and NK too (actually it already sometimes happens with NK).

    Just yesterday or the day before on lemmy, I saw one of our comrades link a bunch of sources in a comment, including episode 8 of Citations Needed. The response? Their interlocutor ignored basically everything except that Greenwald was on the show and, because Greenwald correctly denies that Russia successfully "attacked" the US via hacking in 2016, which they took as evidence that everything involved was a waste of time.

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