โฒ 710 โผ Can we have some clarification on what "Usage Data" the app collects and shares with advertisers? (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by kenbw2@lemmy.world to c/syncforlemmy@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments What constitutes Usage Data. Is it sharing the posts I view, communities I subscribe to etc? Does paying for a premium version stop this data being collected?
[โ] richteratmosphere@lemmy.sdf.org [B] 12 points 3 years ago (2 children) How did you do this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Magister@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (2 children) Only Europeans can do it because Europe passed laws for this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] feef@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sync didn't prompt me at all and I'm from the eu. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Aren't you blocking the ads by any chance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] feef@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Yeah it was because of my pihole. When using 4g I got the popup. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) How does the app know you're from Europe? GPS? Geolocation tagging? Can someone hypothetically pretend to be from Europe too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Usually IP address. For other things it would have to have your permission (and if you give a Lemmy app permission for your location, well it's on you). You could probably use an EU VPN. Though I'm not sure of their implementation, they might disregard your choices if you disconnect from VPN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Hey, thinking about this, I wonder how these rules will work for a citizen of a country enforcing GDPR, who is on vacation to a country that doesn't enforce GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, if you're wondering of how it should be according to GDPR, you should still have the same protections - they are for citizens of EU anywhere in the world and for all people who are currently in the EU, regardless of citizenship. In practice I'd say those that take it seriously will have a cookie on you (if you've already visited) that flags you as being from EU. Those who try to fuck with GDPR will pretend they don't know you're from EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Ah that makes sense. The cookie solution is a bit weak though, I think. Usually I have cookies set to clear every time I close the browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago Well, that's for anonymous access, if you have an account, they should store that information there. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Skates@feddit.nl 7 points 3 years ago* I was prompted to consent to some stuff, which I unchecked. Then there was a "vendor preferences" button, where they were basically saying "ok, even if you don't consent, maybe you still wanna give them access if they have a legitimate interest". So since I have also a legitimate interest in not giving my data to shady fucking companies, I spent the next 10 minutes removing ticks from boxes basically, because fuck giving me a choice to "uncheck all", that would make it too easy to opt out. Edit: and then to make it even more fun, I found a button somewhere in settings where I could remove my consent for gdpr-related reasons. So I clicked it. You wanna guess what it did? If you're guessing it removed my consent, sorry - it actually removed my "lack of consent" - that is to say, it reset the settings and prompted me to uncheck everything again. Cool beans. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Magister@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (2 children) Only Europeans can do it because Europe passed laws for this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] feef@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sync didn't prompt me at all and I'm from the eu. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Aren't you blocking the ads by any chance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] feef@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Yeah it was because of my pihole. When using 4g I got the popup. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) How does the app know you're from Europe? GPS? Geolocation tagging? Can someone hypothetically pretend to be from Europe too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Usually IP address. For other things it would have to have your permission (and if you give a Lemmy app permission for your location, well it's on you). You could probably use an EU VPN. Though I'm not sure of their implementation, they might disregard your choices if you disconnect from VPN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Hey, thinking about this, I wonder how these rules will work for a citizen of a country enforcing GDPR, who is on vacation to a country that doesn't enforce GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, if you're wondering of how it should be according to GDPR, you should still have the same protections - they are for citizens of EU anywhere in the world and for all people who are currently in the EU, regardless of citizenship. In practice I'd say those that take it seriously will have a cookie on you (if you've already visited) that flags you as being from EU. Those who try to fuck with GDPR will pretend they don't know you're from EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Ah that makes sense. The cookie solution is a bit weak though, I think. Usually I have cookies set to clear every time I close the browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago Well, that's for anonymous access, if you have an account, they should store that information there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] feef@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sync didn't prompt me at all and I'm from the eu. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Aren't you blocking the ads by any chance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] feef@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Yeah it was because of my pihole. When using 4g I got the popup. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Aren't you blocking the ads by any chance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] feef@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Yeah it was because of my pihole. When using 4g I got the popup. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] feef@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Yeah it was because of my pihole. When using 4g I got the popup. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) How does the app know you're from Europe? GPS? Geolocation tagging? Can someone hypothetically pretend to be from Europe too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Usually IP address. For other things it would have to have your permission (and if you give a Lemmy app permission for your location, well it's on you). You could probably use an EU VPN. Though I'm not sure of their implementation, they might disregard your choices if you disconnect from VPN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Hey, thinking about this, I wonder how these rules will work for a citizen of a country enforcing GDPR, who is on vacation to a country that doesn't enforce GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, if you're wondering of how it should be according to GDPR, you should still have the same protections - they are for citizens of EU anywhere in the world and for all people who are currently in the EU, regardless of citizenship. In practice I'd say those that take it seriously will have a cookie on you (if you've already visited) that flags you as being from EU. Those who try to fuck with GDPR will pretend they don't know you're from EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Ah that makes sense. The cookie solution is a bit weak though, I think. Usually I have cookies set to clear every time I close the browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago Well, that's for anonymous access, if you have an account, they should store that information there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Usually IP address. For other things it would have to have your permission (and if you give a Lemmy app permission for your location, well it's on you). You could probably use an EU VPN. Though I'm not sure of their implementation, they might disregard your choices if you disconnect from VPN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Hey, thinking about this, I wonder how these rules will work for a citizen of a country enforcing GDPR, who is on vacation to a country that doesn't enforce GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, if you're wondering of how it should be according to GDPR, you should still have the same protections - they are for citizens of EU anywhere in the world and for all people who are currently in the EU, regardless of citizenship. In practice I'd say those that take it seriously will have a cookie on you (if you've already visited) that flags you as being from EU. Those who try to fuck with GDPR will pretend they don't know you're from EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Ah that makes sense. The cookie solution is a bit weak though, I think. Usually I have cookies set to clear every time I close the browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago Well, that's for anonymous access, if you have an account, they should store that information there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Hey, thinking about this, I wonder how these rules will work for a citizen of a country enforcing GDPR, who is on vacation to a country that doesn't enforce GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, if you're wondering of how it should be according to GDPR, you should still have the same protections - they are for citizens of EU anywhere in the world and for all people who are currently in the EU, regardless of citizenship. In practice I'd say those that take it seriously will have a cookie on you (if you've already visited) that flags you as being from EU. Those who try to fuck with GDPR will pretend they don't know you're from EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Ah that makes sense. The cookie solution is a bit weak though, I think. Usually I have cookies set to clear every time I close the browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago Well, that's for anonymous access, if you have an account, they should store that information there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, if you're wondering of how it should be according to GDPR, you should still have the same protections - they are for citizens of EU anywhere in the world and for all people who are currently in the EU, regardless of citizenship. In practice I'd say those that take it seriously will have a cookie on you (if you've already visited) that flags you as being from EU. Those who try to fuck with GDPR will pretend they don't know you're from EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Ah that makes sense. The cookie solution is a bit weak though, I think. Usually I have cookies set to clear every time I close the browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago Well, that's for anonymous access, if you have an account, they should store that information there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Ah that makes sense. The cookie solution is a bit weak though, I think. Usually I have cookies set to clear every time I close the browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago Well, that's for anonymous access, if you have an account, they should store that information there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 years ago Well, that's for anonymous access, if you have an account, they should store that information there. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Skates@feddit.nl 7 points 3 years ago* I was prompted to consent to some stuff, which I unchecked. Then there was a "vendor preferences" button, where they were basically saying "ok, even if you don't consent, maybe you still wanna give them access if they have a legitimate interest". So since I have also a legitimate interest in not giving my data to shady fucking companies, I spent the next 10 minutes removing ticks from boxes basically, because fuck giving me a choice to "uncheck all", that would make it too easy to opt out. Edit: and then to make it even more fun, I found a button somewhere in settings where I could remove my consent for gdpr-related reasons. So I clicked it. You wanna guess what it did? If you're guessing it removed my consent, sorry - it actually removed my "lack of consent" - that is to say, it reset the settings and prompted me to uncheck everything again. Cool beans. permalink fedilink source parent