▲ 48 ▼ Why I ditched Twitter for Bluesky - and hope you will, too! (gregpak.com) submitted 2 years ago by psychothumbs@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 67 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (16 children) It's built to be decentralized though, from what I read. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 years ago (13 children) Mastodon: Am I a joke to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children) I wasn't a fan of the format. (and apparently I'm not allowed to have an opinion on format) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] dandi8@fedia.io 16 points 2 years ago (6 children) Isn't the format literally just Twitter? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) it's quite different in the sense that you don't see any recommended content, just your follows and their boosts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's because its not harvesting your data in order to pull more engagement for ad revenue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago The ad revenue part is true but what do you mean by not harvesting data? Mastodon definitely stores your boosts and likes, it just doesn't use that data to recommend more content. And the big difference is of course that it is stored on your instance's server, not a centralized location. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago I'm not OP, but yes, that's why I don't use Mastodon or Twitter/X. I really don't like the format. I tried to give Twitter a fair shake several years ago, and I found it to be a complete waste of my time. So I don't use it, or anything like it. That's also around when I found Reddit, which I found to not be a complete waste of time, and that's why I'm on Lemmy instead of Mastodon. I like following communities, not topics or people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, and that was the issue for me. Some thoughts are indeed meant to be short, but I'd prefer elaboration in a lot of cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dandi8@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago Ok, but the comment thread is about people preferring Bluesky to Mastodon, hence my confusion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I value your opinion. What do you mean by format? Couldn't you just use a different UI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's kind of you, but not a huge deal. When I tried it (when there was an initial migration to Mastodon), it was so decentralized that you couldn't really have much of a feed and it was tough to find much of anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 19 points 2 years ago The secret to Mastodon is to follow hashtags, not people. (It took a while for that feature to mature, which made that difficult earlier on.) You can follow people too, but with the population there being lower, it generally makes more sense to follow a topic and hide accounts you don't want to see. Caveat: I don't spend a lot of time on microblogging platforms, Mastodon or otherwise. The above knowledge might be stale, but used present tense to not give the impression the platform is dead. permalink fedilink source parent [+] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 2 years ago I mean, Mastodon is a joke if that's what you're asking permalink fedilink source parent [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 years ago It's centralized. They allow federation using their own protocol. But all you need to know is that it's a capitalist, for-profit undertaking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago When it's built around lage aggregators, running which privately is rather hard, there's a bias in favour of centralised, large operators thereof, which mitigates some of the advantages. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 years ago (13 children) Mastodon: Am I a joke to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children) I wasn't a fan of the format. (and apparently I'm not allowed to have an opinion on format) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] dandi8@fedia.io 16 points 2 years ago (6 children) Isn't the format literally just Twitter? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) it's quite different in the sense that you don't see any recommended content, just your follows and their boosts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's because its not harvesting your data in order to pull more engagement for ad revenue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago The ad revenue part is true but what do you mean by not harvesting data? Mastodon definitely stores your boosts and likes, it just doesn't use that data to recommend more content. And the big difference is of course that it is stored on your instance's server, not a centralized location. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago I'm not OP, but yes, that's why I don't use Mastodon or Twitter/X. I really don't like the format. I tried to give Twitter a fair shake several years ago, and I found it to be a complete waste of my time. So I don't use it, or anything like it. That's also around when I found Reddit, which I found to not be a complete waste of time, and that's why I'm on Lemmy instead of Mastodon. I like following communities, not topics or people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, and that was the issue for me. Some thoughts are indeed meant to be short, but I'd prefer elaboration in a lot of cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dandi8@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago Ok, but the comment thread is about people preferring Bluesky to Mastodon, hence my confusion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I value your opinion. What do you mean by format? Couldn't you just use a different UI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's kind of you, but not a huge deal. When I tried it (when there was an initial migration to Mastodon), it was so decentralized that you couldn't really have much of a feed and it was tough to find much of anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 19 points 2 years ago The secret to Mastodon is to follow hashtags, not people. (It took a while for that feature to mature, which made that difficult earlier on.) You can follow people too, but with the population there being lower, it generally makes more sense to follow a topic and hide accounts you don't want to see. Caveat: I don't spend a lot of time on microblogging platforms, Mastodon or otherwise. The above knowledge might be stale, but used present tense to not give the impression the platform is dead. permalink fedilink source parent [+] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 2 years ago I mean, Mastodon is a joke if that's what you're asking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children) I wasn't a fan of the format. (and apparently I'm not allowed to have an opinion on format) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] dandi8@fedia.io 16 points 2 years ago (6 children) Isn't the format literally just Twitter? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) it's quite different in the sense that you don't see any recommended content, just your follows and their boosts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's because its not harvesting your data in order to pull more engagement for ad revenue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago The ad revenue part is true but what do you mean by not harvesting data? Mastodon definitely stores your boosts and likes, it just doesn't use that data to recommend more content. And the big difference is of course that it is stored on your instance's server, not a centralized location. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago I'm not OP, but yes, that's why I don't use Mastodon or Twitter/X. I really don't like the format. I tried to give Twitter a fair shake several years ago, and I found it to be a complete waste of my time. So I don't use it, or anything like it. That's also around when I found Reddit, which I found to not be a complete waste of time, and that's why I'm on Lemmy instead of Mastodon. I like following communities, not topics or people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, and that was the issue for me. Some thoughts are indeed meant to be short, but I'd prefer elaboration in a lot of cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dandi8@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago Ok, but the comment thread is about people preferring Bluesky to Mastodon, hence my confusion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I value your opinion. What do you mean by format? Couldn't you just use a different UI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's kind of you, but not a huge deal. When I tried it (when there was an initial migration to Mastodon), it was so decentralized that you couldn't really have much of a feed and it was tough to find much of anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 19 points 2 years ago The secret to Mastodon is to follow hashtags, not people. (It took a while for that feature to mature, which made that difficult earlier on.) You can follow people too, but with the population there being lower, it generally makes more sense to follow a topic and hide accounts you don't want to see. Caveat: I don't spend a lot of time on microblogging platforms, Mastodon or otherwise. The above knowledge might be stale, but used present tense to not give the impression the platform is dead. permalink fedilink source parent [+] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandi8@fedia.io 16 points 2 years ago (6 children) Isn't the format literally just Twitter? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) it's quite different in the sense that you don't see any recommended content, just your follows and their boosts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's because its not harvesting your data in order to pull more engagement for ad revenue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago The ad revenue part is true but what do you mean by not harvesting data? Mastodon definitely stores your boosts and likes, it just doesn't use that data to recommend more content. And the big difference is of course that it is stored on your instance's server, not a centralized location. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago I'm not OP, but yes, that's why I don't use Mastodon or Twitter/X. I really don't like the format. I tried to give Twitter a fair shake several years ago, and I found it to be a complete waste of my time. So I don't use it, or anything like it. That's also around when I found Reddit, which I found to not be a complete waste of time, and that's why I'm on Lemmy instead of Mastodon. I like following communities, not topics or people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, and that was the issue for me. Some thoughts are indeed meant to be short, but I'd prefer elaboration in a lot of cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dandi8@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago Ok, but the comment thread is about people preferring Bluesky to Mastodon, hence my confusion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) it's quite different in the sense that you don't see any recommended content, just your follows and their boosts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's because its not harvesting your data in order to pull more engagement for ad revenue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago The ad revenue part is true but what do you mean by not harvesting data? Mastodon definitely stores your boosts and likes, it just doesn't use that data to recommend more content. And the big difference is of course that it is stored on your instance's server, not a centralized location. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's because its not harvesting your data in order to pull more engagement for ad revenue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago The ad revenue part is true but what do you mean by not harvesting data? Mastodon definitely stores your boosts and likes, it just doesn't use that data to recommend more content. And the big difference is of course that it is stored on your instance's server, not a centralized location. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago The ad revenue part is true but what do you mean by not harvesting data? Mastodon definitely stores your boosts and likes, it just doesn't use that data to recommend more content. And the big difference is of course that it is stored on your instance's server, not a centralized location. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago I'm not OP, but yes, that's why I don't use Mastodon or Twitter/X. I really don't like the format. I tried to give Twitter a fair shake several years ago, and I found it to be a complete waste of my time. So I don't use it, or anything like it. That's also around when I found Reddit, which I found to not be a complete waste of time, and that's why I'm on Lemmy instead of Mastodon. I like following communities, not topics or people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, and that was the issue for me. Some thoughts are indeed meant to be short, but I'd prefer elaboration in a lot of cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dandi8@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago Ok, but the comment thread is about people preferring Bluesky to Mastodon, hence my confusion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandi8@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago Ok, but the comment thread is about people preferring Bluesky to Mastodon, hence my confusion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I value your opinion. What do you mean by format? Couldn't you just use a different UI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's kind of you, but not a huge deal. When I tried it (when there was an initial migration to Mastodon), it was so decentralized that you couldn't really have much of a feed and it was tough to find much of anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 19 points 2 years ago The secret to Mastodon is to follow hashtags, not people. (It took a while for that feature to mature, which made that difficult earlier on.) You can follow people too, but with the population there being lower, it generally makes more sense to follow a topic and hide accounts you don't want to see. Caveat: I don't spend a lot of time on microblogging platforms, Mastodon or otherwise. The above knowledge might be stale, but used present tense to not give the impression the platform is dead. permalink fedilink source parent [+] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's kind of you, but not a huge deal. When I tried it (when there was an initial migration to Mastodon), it was so decentralized that you couldn't really have much of a feed and it was tough to find much of anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 19 points 2 years ago The secret to Mastodon is to follow hashtags, not people. (It took a while for that feature to mature, which made that difficult earlier on.) You can follow people too, but with the population there being lower, it generally makes more sense to follow a topic and hide accounts you don't want to see. Caveat: I don't spend a lot of time on microblogging platforms, Mastodon or otherwise. The above knowledge might be stale, but used present tense to not give the impression the platform is dead. permalink fedilink source parent [+] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 19 points 2 years ago The secret to Mastodon is to follow hashtags, not people. (It took a while for that feature to mature, which made that difficult earlier on.) You can follow people too, but with the population there being lower, it generally makes more sense to follow a topic and hide accounts you don't want to see. Caveat: I don't spend a lot of time on microblogging platforms, Mastodon or otherwise. The above knowledge might be stale, but used present tense to not give the impression the platform is dead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 2 years ago I mean, Mastodon is a joke if that's what you're asking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 years ago It's centralized. They allow federation using their own protocol. But all you need to know is that it's a capitalist, for-profit undertaking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago When it's built around lage aggregators, running which privately is rather hard, there's a bias in favour of centralised, large operators thereof, which mitigates some of the advantages. permalink fedilink source parent