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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yeah I'll be honest he's doing better than I was expecting. He's managing to not let himself get pinned down defending stupid things Trump, and even he himself has previously said, and has been fairly charismatic and articulate. Walz sounds incoherent at times, and keeps bringing up terminally-political-brained stuff without giving sufficient elaboration/context, so most normal people won't even understand what he's referring to. Vance is a piece of shit for sure, but he's surprisingly good at making Trump and himself sound palatable, if you didn't know better.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

if you didn't know better

Exactly. He's really deft at framing, esp. in giving the viewers a permission structure to support Trump, and giving assuring, flip responses while avoid being pinned on satanic GOP positions, which is leaving Walz blathering, trying to clarify.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Harris and Walz need to stop bringing up Project 2025 in debates. All they have to do is say "no I don't support that, here's what I actually support". Immediate, easy deflect into a stump speech.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Agreed. Project 2025 has always just seemed like bait to me, which the liberal media and democrats have swallowed whole. Not in the sense that it's fake or that everything in it isn't something the GOP actually wishes it could do, but that it has gotten political brain poisoned liberals to freak out constantly about some spooky opaque 1000 page document that no sane person is ever actually going to read, instead of addressing the issues average people actually care about. It just makes them sound weird and annoying.