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[–] 8 points 2 years ago (31 children)

I really don't think it would have hurt to cast an Arab actor as Ra's Al Ghul. And then you wouldn't need a convoluted explanation like that.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (28 children)

    In that case, maybe choose a different villain.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Yes, again, you can come up with that convoluted after-the-fact explanation that wasn't in the movie or you can not piss off Arab people.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    I don't think not being typecast as terrorists pisses off arabs

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    Good thing the character isn't a terrorist then. The head of a cult of assassins is not a terrorist. Assassins target specific people for specific reasons, not to create terror.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I thought we were talking about a character that's the head of a league of assassins, not the actual plot of the movie. You know that the movie didn't have to have that plot, right? You realize it's not some sort of requirement to make that specific Batman story, yes?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Apart from the many, many, many Batman stories where he isn't.

    He even teams up with Batman sometimes.

    Maybe the problem here is you don't actually read the comics.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    You don't even know his comics biography and you're demanding that. 🙄

    A few seconds at Wikipedia could tell you his basic motivations, which are not terrorism:

    Raʼs al Ghul is an international criminal mastermind whose ultimate goal is a world in perfect environmental balance. He believes that the best way to achieve this balance is to eliminate most of humanity

    He's not trying to scare anyone, just kill them and everyone they know. He doesn't care whether or not there's any terror. It doesn't even enter into the equation for him.

    The fact that you don't even know that and you've been arguing with me this whole time about him being a terrorist is hilarious.

    Next time, maybe learn about Batman before you argue about Batman.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Do you remember your own definition? In what way is that intended to cause fear?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Given assassin actions by definition are terror attacks, I'll disagree with you.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Please show me that definition. Assassinations are generally not done to cause terror. They are done to achieve more specific political goals (i.e. get the guy in power out of power).

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    So the same definition of terrorism, i.e. specific actions done to further political goals. You're mad for no reason here

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    That is not the definition of terrorism... if you believe it is, please show me this definition.

    Also, please quote what in specific I said that makes you think I am angry about this.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803103209420

    Terrrorism is the use of violence to cause political change. Not whatever nonsense you were taught in whatever terrible education system produced you.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    You're not going with your own definition. Did you even read it or did you just think I wouldn't? It starts with this:

    The calculated use of violence or threat of violence to inculcate fear.

    The purpose of most assassinations is not about fear.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Read more than the first line, try again, and maybe enroll in a literacy program instead of continuing to exist online.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago

    Insulting me won't make the purpose of assassinations to be about fear.

    But sure, let's go with the second sentence. There were only two sentences in the definition:

    Terrorism is intended to coerce or intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.

    That is also not what assassinations are usually about. They are usually not about coercion or intimidation. They are about retribution or seizing power.

    Feel free to insult me on that front too.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Why?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    For the same reason the excuse of a white character being named Mitsimu Hashimori is that it's just a title being passed down is something people might find offensive.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I think artists can make whatever they want (within the bounds of the law) and that it's up to the consumers to decide whether they like it or not with their wallets.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    When did this become about what people can do and not about whether or not they're being highly offensive?

    It is legal to make and distribute a movie where a guy just yells the N-word for 90 minutes. I assume you would find that offensive. Most people would.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Right, so I wouldn't watch it or give them money, and I'm sure you and most other people wouldn't either. But if that person wants to make it, more power to them.

    It's been about that the entire thread. The OP image is about casting choices.

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