▲ 2119 ▼ Project for people leaving Google Maps. (feddit.org) submitted 2 years ago by 101@feddit.org to c/opensource@lemmy.ml 217 comments fedilink hide all child comments Mastodon Toot. Project.
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 years ago (23 children) Openstreetmaps has 8.75% of the contributors Google Maps has. Organic Maps has 1% the user base Google Maps has. permalink fedilink source hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] 101@feddit.org [S] 121 points 2 years ago (5 children) The same can be said about Lemmy and Reddit, but look where we are. We need to support open-source projects and stop being simps for bad companies like Google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] moon@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago The difficulty is asking people to get started with this. People want to get to work/navigate as quickly as possible to where they need to be, they don't want to be figuring it out. Social media can be janky and you'll be patient, but if you're late for something because you're struggling to adjust to an app you're more likely to go back to Google/Apple Maps permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) Agreed! I got one for that too: Lemmy vs Reddit Monthly Users (0.004%) 44k vs 1.2b permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (2 children) 1 billion users on reddit is not realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago With 700 million bots conducting marketing and psychological warfare ops it is! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago I mean in visitors. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 2 years ago And its still better :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] asbestos@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) So we work harder permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 years ago* I just did 30 minutes of contributing to the osm database. permalink fedilink source parent [–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 17 points 2 years ago (6 children) So? Every platform starts at 0%. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Its good to know how you measure up against the big corpos. permalink fedilink source parent [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) I think the point is 8× more contributions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) This is very ironic coming from someone using Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) I'm confused. Say more? Whats ironic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy is getting most of its contributions from people that migrated from Reddit. Reddit had (and has) tons of more content people still came here looking for a better alternative. Hopefully you can now see the similarity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I see the similarity, what do you mean by irony though? I was pointing out that though the numbers are small (your point) OP was saying Organic maps had 8x contributors, so Im just confused how thats ironic... when the point is that open source users contribute more than non-open source users? permalink fedilink source parent [–] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) internet explorer, yahoo mail, myspace, icq... things change. unfortunately it's mostly due to a huge company having the resources to promote their product to convince people to migrate but still. people can leave old giants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago Yeah, and Wikipedia, linux,... have become important as well, without big corpo permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Proton is 5.5% the size of G-mail. 100m vs 1.8b. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) i think proton is getting shittified as well but you should make a post listing all these alternatives for different services, rather than peppering them in the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Proton isn't getting worse arguably though the current services need more work like the calendar. permalink fedilink source parent [–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* Openstreetmap is better than Google where I live (Anatolian side of İstanbul). permalink fedilink source parent [–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Take a definition of ACTIVE contributors, because both projects have a lot of inactive contributors that only registered and didn't do anything but just one update and left, if any. Google is known for dropping projects that they can't monetize enough. Maps' been around for a while, but it can always just disappear for public use. Or decide that you need a Google account too use it and that's a privacy nightmare. We need alternatives, but in this case, we need free and open source alternatives. We can't put all the eggs in the same basket. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 101@feddit.org [S] 121 points 2 years ago (5 children) The same can be said about Lemmy and Reddit, but look where we are. We need to support open-source projects and stop being simps for bad companies like Google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] moon@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago The difficulty is asking people to get started with this. People want to get to work/navigate as quickly as possible to where they need to be, they don't want to be figuring it out. Social media can be janky and you'll be patient, but if you're late for something because you're struggling to adjust to an app you're more likely to go back to Google/Apple Maps permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) Agreed! I got one for that too: Lemmy vs Reddit Monthly Users (0.004%) 44k vs 1.2b permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (2 children) 1 billion users on reddit is not realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago With 700 million bots conducting marketing and psychological warfare ops it is! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago I mean in visitors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moon@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago The difficulty is asking people to get started with this. People want to get to work/navigate as quickly as possible to where they need to be, they don't want to be figuring it out. Social media can be janky and you'll be patient, but if you're late for something because you're struggling to adjust to an app you're more likely to go back to Google/Apple Maps permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) Agreed! I got one for that too: Lemmy vs Reddit Monthly Users (0.004%) 44k vs 1.2b permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (2 children) 1 billion users on reddit is not realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago With 700 million bots conducting marketing and psychological warfare ops it is! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago I mean in visitors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (2 children) 1 billion users on reddit is not realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago With 700 million bots conducting marketing and psychological warfare ops it is! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago I mean in visitors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago With 700 million bots conducting marketing and psychological warfare ops it is! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 2 years ago And its still better :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) So we work harder permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 years ago* I just did 30 minutes of contributing to the osm database. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 years ago* I just did 30 minutes of contributing to the osm database. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 17 points 2 years ago (6 children) So? Every platform starts at 0%. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Its good to know how you measure up against the big corpos. permalink fedilink source parent [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) I think the point is 8× more contributions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) This is very ironic coming from someone using Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) I'm confused. Say more? Whats ironic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy is getting most of its contributions from people that migrated from Reddit. Reddit had (and has) tons of more content people still came here looking for a better alternative. Hopefully you can now see the similarity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I see the similarity, what do you mean by irony though? I was pointing out that though the numbers are small (your point) OP was saying Organic maps had 8x contributors, so Im just confused how thats ironic... when the point is that open source users contribute more than non-open source users? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Its good to know how you measure up against the big corpos. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) I think the point is 8× more contributions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) This is very ironic coming from someone using Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) I'm confused. Say more? Whats ironic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy is getting most of its contributions from people that migrated from Reddit. Reddit had (and has) tons of more content people still came here looking for a better alternative. Hopefully you can now see the similarity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I see the similarity, what do you mean by irony though? I was pointing out that though the numbers are small (your point) OP was saying Organic maps had 8x contributors, so Im just confused how thats ironic... when the point is that open source users contribute more than non-open source users? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) This is very ironic coming from someone using Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) I'm confused. Say more? Whats ironic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy is getting most of its contributions from people that migrated from Reddit. Reddit had (and has) tons of more content people still came here looking for a better alternative. Hopefully you can now see the similarity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I see the similarity, what do you mean by irony though? I was pointing out that though the numbers are small (your point) OP was saying Organic maps had 8x contributors, so Im just confused how thats ironic... when the point is that open source users contribute more than non-open source users? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) I'm confused. Say more? Whats ironic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy is getting most of its contributions from people that migrated from Reddit. Reddit had (and has) tons of more content people still came here looking for a better alternative. Hopefully you can now see the similarity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I see the similarity, what do you mean by irony though? I was pointing out that though the numbers are small (your point) OP was saying Organic maps had 8x contributors, so Im just confused how thats ironic... when the point is that open source users contribute more than non-open source users? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy is getting most of its contributions from people that migrated from Reddit. Reddit had (and has) tons of more content people still came here looking for a better alternative. Hopefully you can now see the similarity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I see the similarity, what do you mean by irony though? I was pointing out that though the numbers are small (your point) OP was saying Organic maps had 8x contributors, so Im just confused how thats ironic... when the point is that open source users contribute more than non-open source users? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I see the similarity, what do you mean by irony though? I was pointing out that though the numbers are small (your point) OP was saying Organic maps had 8x contributors, so Im just confused how thats ironic... when the point is that open source users contribute more than non-open source users? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) internet explorer, yahoo mail, myspace, icq... things change. unfortunately it's mostly due to a huge company having the resources to promote their product to convince people to migrate but still. people can leave old giants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago Yeah, and Wikipedia, linux,... have become important as well, without big corpo permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Proton is 5.5% the size of G-mail. 100m vs 1.8b. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) i think proton is getting shittified as well but you should make a post listing all these alternatives for different services, rather than peppering them in the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Proton isn't getting worse arguably though the current services need more work like the calendar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago Yeah, and Wikipedia, linux,... have become important as well, without big corpo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Proton is 5.5% the size of G-mail. 100m vs 1.8b. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) i think proton is getting shittified as well but you should make a post listing all these alternatives for different services, rather than peppering them in the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Proton isn't getting worse arguably though the current services need more work like the calendar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyre@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) i think proton is getting shittified as well but you should make a post listing all these alternatives for different services, rather than peppering them in the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Proton isn't getting worse arguably though the current services need more work like the calendar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Proton isn't getting worse arguably though the current services need more work like the calendar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* Openstreetmap is better than Google where I live (Anatolian side of İstanbul). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Take a definition of ACTIVE contributors, because both projects have a lot of inactive contributors that only registered and didn't do anything but just one update and left, if any. Google is known for dropping projects that they can't monetize enough. Maps' been around for a while, but it can always just disappear for public use. Or decide that you need a Google account too use it and that's a privacy nightmare. We need alternatives, but in this case, we need free and open source alternatives. We can't put all the eggs in the same basket. permalink fedilink source parent