▲ 683 ▼ Trump's rambling is getting worse | His speech is becoming harder and harder to understand. (www.msnbc.com) submitted 2 years ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/politics@lemmy.world 153 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) We haven't ignored it. His cult did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -60 points 2 years ago (5 children) Like Democrats did Biden's permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago (1 child) Democrats complaining about it are the reason Biden dropped out. Weak whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -25 points 2 years ago (1 child) Biden dropped out because the DONOR class demanded it with threats of withholding money if he didn't. The average voter had zero impact on that decision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Yeah probably part of it. Donors who are Democrat, who knew the majority of Democrat voters didn't want Biden. Democrats were calling for Biden to step down, while we aren't seeing the same level of demand from the Republicans for Trump to step down due to declining mental health permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 years ago* .ml Yup. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago On bidens worse day he has always made more sense and been more cognizant than Trump. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not USian, but I've seen online Democrats complaining about Biden as often, if not more, than Republicans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -27 points 2 years ago (3 children) Democrats defended him tooth and nail. They spit out venomous accusations at anyone critical of him. They buried their head in the sand over the last several years about his cognitive decline by demanding it was a speech impediment, which was NEVER present in any of his speeches prior to 2008 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] havocpants@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago Biden stepped down, what do you want at this point? This article is about Trump's mental decline, you know - the other senile old guy who is still running for president. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Democrats defended him tooth and nail. 'Democrats' aren't a monolith, there was a constant desire for change among many democratic supporters. I'm Canadian and even up here there was a desire to replace him with someone better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. If they never hold their politicians accountable things will never get better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. I think you missed my country of origin there, bud. Also you're just bait and switching here, your original point was that 'the democrats' fought for him tooth and nail, and yet the entire time people from all over the tent of the Left were demanding he be replaced and then... he was. You're embarrassing yourself here, just take the L and focus back on using whataboutism anytime someone chooses to back a right-of-centre candidate over a fascist one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Where in that quote did I reference you or where you are located? Until the donor class said no more money Biden was insisting he was staying in the race. Money speaks, and we don't have it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, there are millions of them, so both things can be true. MY personal experience is seeing them criticizing more than defending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Criticizing is irrelevant when they won't hold them accountable. For all intents Biden could have said 'I could kill 30,000 Palestinian children and not lose a single voter.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If he wasn't losing voters, why was he behind Trump in the polls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago If Biden stayed in the race those very same people that criticized him would have still voted for him. Meaning that criticism was performative. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Agreed! There's LITERALLY No Correlation between Biden dropping out and Democrats talking about his Mental Capacity. LITERALLY no Correlation! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -60 points 2 years ago (5 children) Like Democrats did Biden's permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago (1 child) Democrats complaining about it are the reason Biden dropped out. Weak whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -25 points 2 years ago (1 child) Biden dropped out because the DONOR class demanded it with threats of withholding money if he didn't. The average voter had zero impact on that decision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Yeah probably part of it. Donors who are Democrat, who knew the majority of Democrat voters didn't want Biden. Democrats were calling for Biden to step down, while we aren't seeing the same level of demand from the Republicans for Trump to step down due to declining mental health permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 years ago* .ml Yup. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago On bidens worse day he has always made more sense and been more cognizant than Trump. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not USian, but I've seen online Democrats complaining about Biden as often, if not more, than Republicans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -27 points 2 years ago (3 children) Democrats defended him tooth and nail. They spit out venomous accusations at anyone critical of him. They buried their head in the sand over the last several years about his cognitive decline by demanding it was a speech impediment, which was NEVER present in any of his speeches prior to 2008 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] havocpants@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago Biden stepped down, what do you want at this point? This article is about Trump's mental decline, you know - the other senile old guy who is still running for president. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Democrats defended him tooth and nail. 'Democrats' aren't a monolith, there was a constant desire for change among many democratic supporters. I'm Canadian and even up here there was a desire to replace him with someone better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. If they never hold their politicians accountable things will never get better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. I think you missed my country of origin there, bud. Also you're just bait and switching here, your original point was that 'the democrats' fought for him tooth and nail, and yet the entire time people from all over the tent of the Left were demanding he be replaced and then... he was. You're embarrassing yourself here, just take the L and focus back on using whataboutism anytime someone chooses to back a right-of-centre candidate over a fascist one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Where in that quote did I reference you or where you are located? Until the donor class said no more money Biden was insisting he was staying in the race. Money speaks, and we don't have it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, there are millions of them, so both things can be true. MY personal experience is seeing them criticizing more than defending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Criticizing is irrelevant when they won't hold them accountable. For all intents Biden could have said 'I could kill 30,000 Palestinian children and not lose a single voter.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If he wasn't losing voters, why was he behind Trump in the polls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago If Biden stayed in the race those very same people that criticized him would have still voted for him. Meaning that criticism was performative. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Agreed! There's LITERALLY No Correlation between Biden dropping out and Democrats talking about his Mental Capacity. LITERALLY no Correlation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago (1 child) Democrats complaining about it are the reason Biden dropped out. Weak whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -25 points 2 years ago (1 child) Biden dropped out because the DONOR class demanded it with threats of withholding money if he didn't. The average voter had zero impact on that decision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Yeah probably part of it. Donors who are Democrat, who knew the majority of Democrat voters didn't want Biden. Democrats were calling for Biden to step down, while we aren't seeing the same level of demand from the Republicans for Trump to step down due to declining mental health permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -25 points 2 years ago (1 child) Biden dropped out because the DONOR class demanded it with threats of withholding money if he didn't. The average voter had zero impact on that decision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Yeah probably part of it. Donors who are Democrat, who knew the majority of Democrat voters didn't want Biden. Democrats were calling for Biden to step down, while we aren't seeing the same level of demand from the Republicans for Trump to step down due to declining mental health permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Yeah probably part of it. Donors who are Democrat, who knew the majority of Democrat voters didn't want Biden. Democrats were calling for Biden to step down, while we aren't seeing the same level of demand from the Republicans for Trump to step down due to declining mental health permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago On bidens worse day he has always made more sense and been more cognizant than Trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not USian, but I've seen online Democrats complaining about Biden as often, if not more, than Republicans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -27 points 2 years ago (3 children) Democrats defended him tooth and nail. They spit out venomous accusations at anyone critical of him. They buried their head in the sand over the last several years about his cognitive decline by demanding it was a speech impediment, which was NEVER present in any of his speeches prior to 2008 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] havocpants@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago Biden stepped down, what do you want at this point? This article is about Trump's mental decline, you know - the other senile old guy who is still running for president. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Democrats defended him tooth and nail. 'Democrats' aren't a monolith, there was a constant desire for change among many democratic supporters. I'm Canadian and even up here there was a desire to replace him with someone better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. If they never hold their politicians accountable things will never get better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. I think you missed my country of origin there, bud. Also you're just bait and switching here, your original point was that 'the democrats' fought for him tooth and nail, and yet the entire time people from all over the tent of the Left were demanding he be replaced and then... he was. You're embarrassing yourself here, just take the L and focus back on using whataboutism anytime someone chooses to back a right-of-centre candidate over a fascist one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Where in that quote did I reference you or where you are located? Until the donor class said no more money Biden was insisting he was staying in the race. Money speaks, and we don't have it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, there are millions of them, so both things can be true. MY personal experience is seeing them criticizing more than defending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Criticizing is irrelevant when they won't hold them accountable. For all intents Biden could have said 'I could kill 30,000 Palestinian children and not lose a single voter.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If he wasn't losing voters, why was he behind Trump in the polls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago If Biden stayed in the race those very same people that criticized him would have still voted for him. Meaning that criticism was performative. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -27 points 2 years ago (3 children) Democrats defended him tooth and nail. They spit out venomous accusations at anyone critical of him. They buried their head in the sand over the last several years about his cognitive decline by demanding it was a speech impediment, which was NEVER present in any of his speeches prior to 2008 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] havocpants@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago Biden stepped down, what do you want at this point? This article is about Trump's mental decline, you know - the other senile old guy who is still running for president. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Democrats defended him tooth and nail. 'Democrats' aren't a monolith, there was a constant desire for change among many democratic supporters. I'm Canadian and even up here there was a desire to replace him with someone better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. If they never hold their politicians accountable things will never get better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. I think you missed my country of origin there, bud. Also you're just bait and switching here, your original point was that 'the democrats' fought for him tooth and nail, and yet the entire time people from all over the tent of the Left were demanding he be replaced and then... he was. You're embarrassing yourself here, just take the L and focus back on using whataboutism anytime someone chooses to back a right-of-centre candidate over a fascist one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Where in that quote did I reference you or where you are located? Until the donor class said no more money Biden was insisting he was staying in the race. Money speaks, and we don't have it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, there are millions of them, so both things can be true. MY personal experience is seeing them criticizing more than defending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Criticizing is irrelevant when they won't hold them accountable. For all intents Biden could have said 'I could kill 30,000 Palestinian children and not lose a single voter.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If he wasn't losing voters, why was he behind Trump in the polls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago If Biden stayed in the race those very same people that criticized him would have still voted for him. Meaning that criticism was performative. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago Biden stepped down, what do you want at this point? This article is about Trump's mental decline, you know - the other senile old guy who is still running for president. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Democrats defended him tooth and nail. 'Democrats' aren't a monolith, there was a constant desire for change among many democratic supporters. I'm Canadian and even up here there was a desire to replace him with someone better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. If they never hold their politicians accountable things will never get better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. I think you missed my country of origin there, bud. Also you're just bait and switching here, your original point was that 'the democrats' fought for him tooth and nail, and yet the entire time people from all over the tent of the Left were demanding he be replaced and then... he was. You're embarrassing yourself here, just take the L and focus back on using whataboutism anytime someone chooses to back a right-of-centre candidate over a fascist one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Where in that quote did I reference you or where you are located? Until the donor class said no more money Biden was insisting he was staying in the race. Money speaks, and we don't have it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. If they never hold their politicians accountable things will never get better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. I think you missed my country of origin there, bud. Also you're just bait and switching here, your original point was that 'the democrats' fought for him tooth and nail, and yet the entire time people from all over the tent of the Left were demanding he be replaced and then... he was. You're embarrassing yourself here, just take the L and focus back on using whataboutism anytime someone chooses to back a right-of-centre candidate over a fascist one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Where in that quote did I reference you or where you are located? Until the donor class said no more money Biden was insisting he was staying in the race. Money speaks, and we don't have it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking about wanting change and then still voting for them when the time came makes that speech irrelevant. I think you missed my country of origin there, bud. Also you're just bait and switching here, your original point was that 'the democrats' fought for him tooth and nail, and yet the entire time people from all over the tent of the Left were demanding he be replaced and then... he was. You're embarrassing yourself here, just take the L and focus back on using whataboutism anytime someone chooses to back a right-of-centre candidate over a fascist one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Where in that quote did I reference you or where you are located? Until the donor class said no more money Biden was insisting he was staying in the race. Money speaks, and we don't have it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Where in that quote did I reference you or where you are located? Until the donor class said no more money Biden was insisting he was staying in the race. Money speaks, and we don't have it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, there are millions of them, so both things can be true. MY personal experience is seeing them criticizing more than defending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Criticizing is irrelevant when they won't hold them accountable. For all intents Biden could have said 'I could kill 30,000 Palestinian children and not lose a single voter.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If he wasn't losing voters, why was he behind Trump in the polls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago If Biden stayed in the race those very same people that criticized him would have still voted for him. Meaning that criticism was performative. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Criticizing is irrelevant when they won't hold them accountable. For all intents Biden could have said 'I could kill 30,000 Palestinian children and not lose a single voter.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If he wasn't losing voters, why was he behind Trump in the polls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago If Biden stayed in the race those very same people that criticized him would have still voted for him. Meaning that criticism was performative. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If he wasn't losing voters, why was he behind Trump in the polls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago If Biden stayed in the race those very same people that criticized him would have still voted for him. Meaning that criticism was performative. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago If Biden stayed in the race those very same people that criticized him would have still voted for him. Meaning that criticism was performative. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Agreed! There's LITERALLY No Correlation between Biden dropping out and Democrats talking about his Mental Capacity. LITERALLY no Correlation! permalink fedilink source parent